Neu Motors and Schulze...
 

Hello,

I recently had an email exchange with tech support at Schulze, anyway I tacked on a bonus question to them asking if my Schulze 18.97 Speedo was compatible with the Neu motors and to my surprise they said yes! Can any of you guy confirm or deny this?

Of course they added that they feel the best motor out there is something called a BigMaxximum but I've read some not so good things about these and I'm ready to ditch the cheezy Feiago's I've been burning up er...I mean running. The Neu motors sound great but it seems there are not many ESCs which can drive them.

Thanks for any info you can post.

DM

All I can tell you is that several forum members here are not fond of the Schulze. Several have burned up in spectacular style.

I'll let those that used them personally respond with more specifics.

That Big Maxx that you are talking about is a Plettenberg. It's another four poler and is supposed to be a good motor. Since you're in the states, you'd probably be better off with a Neu.

Hmmm..interesting deduction, since the Plettenberg is 4 pole and the Neu is 4 pole does that mean they are likely compatible?

DM

Yes.

My Schulze 18.61 blew up in a wonderful fashion, but I still think it was the best speed controller I've used.

Serum has a webpage showing his collection of burnt Schulze controllers. The first one on that page is really bad!

wow those look familar. I actually still have a working schulze 12.97 but dont use it anymore.

I have wasted at least a thousand dollars on those exploding shultz ESCs .I have never had problems on Quark and MGM ESCs that is only my experience I'm sharing with you to save you the money and frustration but it is up to you to decide, In fairness to Shultze i had escs that work with no problems at all. But the exploding ratio to the other esc companies are a lot higher on their side it is only my experience I'm sharing with you others here may have different ones

I wonder why they tend to do that?

You guys better be carefull using the S word around here . Rene is not a big fan on them :005: .

Actually, he LOVES them! He even has a section in his photo album dedicated the them. :)

Yeah, i think i am their biggest fan! but that's not surprising with their superb guarantee/support..

It doesn't surprise me that they do work with the neu motors though.

I talked to plettenberg a few months back;

the plettenbergs can be bought in different winds as well, you need to order them from the factory in germany. the bigmaxx (normally 2200kv, which is a 2 wind) can be ordered in 3 wind, which makes it a ~1700 kv and the maxximum can be bough in 3 wind as well, which makes it a 2200 kv instead of the usual 3100kv.

But if a neu works; who cares for that information.. :)

Good thing is; when you smoke the schulze (or the schulze smokes on you) the quark controller can release you from that german warrantee terror.

schulze bashing as usual here. :027:

imo they make great controllers that are able to run almost any motor you can find. the new 24.150WK that should come out soon will be nice. another nice thing they detect the battery type themselves what makes it a lot easier to switch between nimh and lipo for instance. over all i don't think they burn statistically significant more often than ohter esc. of course i have no data on this (but i read a lot in lots of forums). i admit though that the support especially emailcorrespondence with mr schulze himself is very cumbersome.

nice information about plettenberg motors! thx for that serum.

if was living in the us i would probably chose a quark/neu combo over a schulze/plettenberg.....but only due to availability reasons.

bye
rhylsadar

No bashing, just a clear observation.. I didn't called the communication by email cumbersome.. :p;)

Was your schulze replaced under warrantee or did you too need to pay 'investigation' costs?

The fact that the customer is ALWAYS wrong makes me think that he's got a personallity.. Must be an age thing; i've seen him next to Plettenberg; he is about 63 years old i guess.

Have you got a link to the new controller? can't find it on the schulze site.

hi

you find the new controller in the pdf-catalog you can download on their site.http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.d...log2006-de.pdf

yes i had to pay for my burned schulze. but in the aftermath i had found the reason why the esc fried at that time. and it was my fault. the weekend before i was at a rc event and had to fix the savy in a hurry and didn't put the center drive train togehter properly. so there was much resistance that i didn't realize. the load must have been very high so that maybe any esc would have had its problems. anyway we have 4 schulzes here in use and some of them even for 4 years now with no issues. a friend of mine sends his schulze for a overall check every second year and gets it back like new with everything changed for 40 euros or so. so in that case the "support" is quite good.
but you are absolutely right that mr schulze is a "special" contemporary. whatever the reason for that....:027:

but don't get me wrong. i don't want to say the schulzes are "better" than other esc. i also have very good long term experience with the quark monster pro and bk controllers.

bye
rhylsadar

I should say myself that the Schulze controllers are the most programming friendly ESCs. My 18.149 did a very good job with my 6s FlightPowers and it did not thermal at all with a very good temp.
I used to like BK more, but I changed my mind now.

Ok, I can see we need to get back on topic...even though I know it's fun to slam the controller/company/propensity toward crispy failures. The topic is about the compatibility of the Schulze controller and the Neu motors. Has anyone actually tried it? And if so, do you know what the correct DIP switch setting is for #6 ( 0 = 9 kHz, 1=19Khz).

Thanks

DM

Yeah, IMO the problem is with bl controllers isn't how solid they work, (partially ofcourse) it's about the service the company provides and the speed they do it with. In that case schulze has got a certain lack of performance based on my likings. And we are not bashing any product here, mainly it's about the people that stand behind them (or not)

@mac; test the settings and report back; some have other results with the higher frequencies. While my bigmaxx was cool on 19khz, the controller got more hot. The motor got more hot on 9 and the controller was cooler. No user here is using a schulze/neu setup that i am familiar of.

So get yourself a tempgun and play testdummy.

I am sure the schulze will run the neu motor without a problem.

My Schulze failure was my fault as well, I just wish I could afford them these days:027:

i run the Schulze 40.160 control with Neu motor set-ups in all my fast electric [SAWS] record time trials boats...

if you choose the Schulze 40.160 control to use in a Neu motor application it must be a 40.160 [v14 series] or newer v15, v16, etc.

the earlier version 40.160 controls [v12. v13, etc.] had a start-up problem when used with Neu motors... you can send your older schulze control back to Germany to have it up-dated if necessary...

i've run a 40.160 [v-14] in my Q. S. and T-Mono [SAWS] record time trials boats [mono's] for going on three years and have not had any problems... zero-zip-nada

i've run the schulze 40.160 in combo with...

Neu 2215 1.5YF "BAM" on [32] IB4200 wc cells
Neu 1521 1YF on 24 IB4200 wc cells
Neu 1521 1.5D on 18 IB4200 wc cells
Neu 1515 1YS on 18 IB4200 wc cells


Ron

Too bad these 40.160 are the size of Europe. useless for cars/trucks IMO.