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t-maxxracer32 09.01.2007 01:43 AM

possible perfect truck?
 
hey guys i plan on selling EVERYTHING i have in RC cars and making one AMAZING truck. i have around 4k worth of RC stuff and 3k is going into the bank so for now i will have about a grand to spend. what would you say to be the ELITE truck. im not a racer but i like the look (truggy look) and i basically want beastliest truck possible

thanks for any help!

and serum... i know im very indesicive (if thats the right word) with rc cars but o well its how i am!

lincpimp 09.01.2007 01:48 AM

Hands down, has to be the Mini LST, definately the crappiest truck out there!!

Oh, wait a minute, I must have read your post wrong, I thought you wanted the best way to waste a grand on making a pos work!!

On the best truck to by... hummmmmmmm, my vote would go to converting a 1/8 scale nitro monster truck, you can really bash those things and they hold up well. I wil be converting an aftershock, cheapy version of the lst2. If you like truggys the 8t seems popular, not sure about truggys. I have a hb lsp that I am in the process of converting, but not really sure what to do with it when I finish. I only bought it cause it was a killer deal!!!

coolrunnings 09.01.2007 05:53 AM

You said the beastiest truck right? I have been thinking about a brushless Lst 6x6 conversion running a lehner 2240 on 8s

Getter Robo 09.01.2007 09:12 AM

My vote goes for a maxxi-LST2 (LST2 with E-Maxx tranny and custom chassis plate). That's what I'm building at the moment :)

2FastSS4U 09.01.2007 09:20 AM

My vote goes to an LST2, I'd try to get all the electronics inside one those RC Solutions roll cages to be well protected; They're beasts!

lincpimp 09.01.2007 12:46 PM

I had no idea that the lst would be so popular. Just by looking at it it looks tough and I spoke to a few guys who raced them and they had no issues with the diff or suspension. That why I bought an aftershock. I will do the emaxx tranny and sell off the nitro stuff and the stock radio gear.

t-maxxracer32 09.01.2007 12:53 PM

hmmmmm

ill have to check out that lst2

supralover72 09.01.2007 01:39 PM

Save some money and get and aftershock with LST2 upgrade since you won't be needing the tranny extras or the better engine and radio.

Also, check out this site for LST2 specific help: lstforums.com

Nick 09.01.2007 02:18 PM

$1000 for an amazing R/C truck? Woah man, let me know where you shop!

You have a Revo and a E-Maxx... why not just make these amazing? They are both great chassis to work from.

Getter Robo 09.01.2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 115984)
On the best truck to by... hummmmmmmm, my vote would go to converting a 1/8 scale nitro monster truck, you can really bash those things and they hold up well. I wil be converting an aftershock, cheapy version of the lst2. If you like truggys the 8t seems popular, not sure about truggys.

Are those tupperware shocks of the aftershock any good?

lincpimp 09.01.2007 03:10 PM

Good enough that a lot of the pro racers replace the lst al shock bodies with them, mainly for weight reduction. I have freind who has had a nitro aftershock for a while and has had no shock problems. I had a look at a shock body and it is quite thick and does not distort easily under hand pressure.

squeeforever 09.01.2007 03:18 PM

My vote is for a Revo...

t-maxxracer32 09.01.2007 03:45 PM

1000 would be just a start lol.

and i could keep my revo and just upgrade it but i was just wondering what the opinions on other trucks were. as far as the emaxx goes... idk... i just dont like how it runs.

lincpimp 09.01.2007 03:48 PM

I have always prefered the emaxx as a 2wd truck. I think it is alot more fun than 4wd, bash-wise anyway.

squeeforever 09.01.2007 04:53 PM

Trust me, a Revo with a Gorillamaxx chassis will own...I don't think you would regret it.

2FastSS4U 09.01.2007 05:41 PM

Isn't the gorillamaxx chassis kind of fragile and meant more for racing? I'd think if you wanted a bashable e-maxx to go with FLM all the way around, though getting to the durability and strength level of a stock 1/8th scale truck would be really expensive, you'd be better off just converting a nitro 1/8th IMO.

squeeforever 09.01.2007 06:11 PM

Nah, the Gorilla chassis are actually really strong. No FLM, but there strong.

biddy 09.01.2007 07:37 PM

i don't recommend traxxas at all. too much money needs to be spent on upgrades before it reaches the same quality as a 1/8th scale truggy/monster truck.
the revo has weak diffs and transmission gears. but i can see you already know this since you brought spider gears for your revo, rpm gear all around and aluminium carriers, which would have set you back heaps of $$$. from my experience, traxxas vechicles only stand up to abuse if you continually upgrade them.

get a quality truck out of the box like a mugen mbx5t, losi 8ight t or jamin' crt. get the pro version and build it yourself.
the jammin' CRT pro kit cost me $575 from towers ($600-$25 discount).

t-maxxracer32 09.01.2007 07:43 PM

those upgrades are for my tmaxx actually. i dont think the evo has spider diffs

biddy 09.01.2007 08:44 PM

i have a t-maxx as well. its only a good truck because i have spent alot of money on upgrades. in stock form the t-maxx is terrible.
for example cheap plastic shocks....worst design ever! the shock caps pop after one small crash. so you pay $480 for a RTR truck and you have to spend another +$80 on shocks straight away. The t-maxx is not a quality truck out of the box.

coolrunnings 09.01.2007 09:34 PM

Lst2

squeeforever 09.01.2007 10:08 PM

Biddy, unlike Maxx's Revos are pretty much tanks from the factory. ALOT of racers run pretty much stock 3.3 Revos.

_paralyzed_ 09.01.2007 11:20 PM

my vote
 
a savage, you can build a complete fastlane machine savage, my buddy runs a nitro version with an o.s. .30 3 horse motor. You can get combo bulks, extended low cdenter of gravity chassis, extended arms that come with titanium driveshafts, my friend is absolutely planted, and a 3 speed tranny! Absolutely bulletproof!! Yep, a full fastlane savage, and kershaw designs makes the brushless motor mount. I've played with the lst's as well, and out of the box they would be as bulletproof, but they wouldn't be a custom fastlane savage with the cool twin vertical plate design, if I didn't have so much $$$$$$$$ in maxxes i would be building one right now, I'll get a pic tommorow of my buddies savage, L8R!

shady3031 09.01.2007 11:29 PM

My first rc was a AE MGT and it seemed indestructible i swear i could throw it out of my pickup going down the interstate at 70 mph and it would survive. I amnot sure how hard it would be to convert to brushless but i know a lot of people who have had great success racing the mgt against the breakage prone traxxas vehicles.

biddy 09.01.2007 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 116139)
Biddy, unlike Maxx's Revos are pretty much tanks from the factory. ALOT of racers run pretty much stock 3.3 Revos.

hey man,
i posted in another thread what went wrong with my revo 3.3 when racing it around my track (no bashing). i blew the primary gear (first gear), the reverse gear, snapped two shock shafts, snapped the header pipe, blew a clutch spring, couldn't remove the rockers due to over tightening at the factory, ....but worst of all i don't like revos because of how the pushrod ball ends become sloppy quite quickly. which results in a loose suspension and sagging . this is just, IMO.

i know lots of people love revos, and thats their opinion, but i am steering clear of traxxas from now on. i will still run my t-maxx and revo, but once they are Irreparable..that will be it for me and traxxas.

Hernz 09.02.2007 02:20 AM

waht ever happened with this thing?

http://bomb-proofproducts.com/home.htm

looks nice to me

coolrunnings 09.02.2007 02:49 AM

Too many revo's, too many maxxe's not enough LST2's.

Getter Robo 09.02.2007 05:20 AM

I think it's because revos and maxxes are easier to convert than lst2. Heck you don't even have to build anything yourself if you want to make an "ubermaxx" or a "G-Maxx-BL-Revo".
For the LST2 you have to do at least your own chassis plate for batteries and e-maxx tranny or a motor mount depending on how you want to do the mod.

I dunno how hard it is to convert a MGT but it doesn't seem that hard. There should be enough space for the batteries to begin with.

LST and MGT have one thing in common: You don't have to load them with hopups to make them work with crazy motors unlike maxx trucks.

macr0w 09.02.2007 11:41 AM

I guess Losi doesn't make a 1/10th or 1/8th scale electric 4wd monster truck do they?

I like the lst2 but I don't want a nitro vehicle.

Give be brushless or give me death.

jnev 09.02.2007 12:08 PM

Everyone is recommending you convert the nitro to electric. Nitro vehicles are more durable than electric, which is why so many people convert them.

I say Savage or Revo.

squeeforever 09.02.2007 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hernz (Post 116159)
waht ever happened with this thing?

http://bomb-proofproducts.com/home.htm

looks nice to me

I have one of the only ones made. They didn't go into production though because of cost.

t-maxxracer32 09.02.2007 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 116198)
I have one of tthe only ones made. They didn't go into production though because of cost.


ya thats what i heard price was too much to produce them.
and like jnev said i will for sure to gas to electric because of the quality its just i need to find the right one.

if i kept the t-maxx itd only be because i have a COMPLETELY upgradred one. i dont like how it drives at all. doesnt handle very well.

if i did a revo it would be cheaper cause i already have a nice roller and everything. i have ALOT of spare breaks too if i break anything.

so i dont know!!!!!!

im aiming towards a revo though since i have evertyhing, but after reading what paralyzed said the savage sounds awsome.

bb16 09.02.2007 01:52 PM

Im just curious why do people say you need to convert the LST with an E-MAXX transmission. My lst transmission is holding pretty well.

squeeforever 09.02.2007 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bb16 (Post 116205)
Im just curious why do people say you need to convert the LST with an E-MAXX transmission. My lst transmission is holding pretty well.

Pinion problems I do believe. Metal on metal always results in a stripped pinion.

I've seen some very valid points about why go with something other than the Revo, but keep in mind, the Savage for example requires upgrades as well. There not indestructable from the factory. Like the the 2nd speed tranny gear. If I remember, it doesn't hold up to BL all that well and needs to be upgraded to the HD part. I would still go Revo, no matter what. They handle AMAZING, no matter how horrible there setup, and they don't really need any upgrading from the factory, when avoiding nitro. For example, biddy said he had problems with pushrod ends getting sloppy. I've never really had that problem unless it was the ones under the rear pipe. Mainly the shock ends. They do need to be upgraded to aluminum, but thats only a nitro problem. Personally, I think its one of the best trucks ever made. Yea, it might not be indestructable, but its damn near it.

bb16 09.02.2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 116206)
Pinion problems I do believe. Metal on metal always results in a stripped pinion.

I've seen some very valid points about why go with something other than the Revo, but keep in mind, the Savage for example requires upgrades as well. There not indestructable from the factory. Like the the 2nd speed tranny gear. If I remember, it doesn't hold up to BL all that well and needs to be upgraded to the HD part. I would still go Revo, no matter what. They handle AMAZING, no matter how horrible there setup, and they don't really need any upgrading from the factory, when avoiding nitro. For example, biddy said he had problems with pushrod ends getting sloppy. I've never really had that problem unless it was the ones under the rear pipe. Mainly the shock ends. They do need to be upgraded to aluminum, but thats only a nitro problem. Personally, I think its one of the best trucks ever made. Yea, it might not be indestructable, but its damn near it.

Stock LST spurs are plastic. So its metal on plastic.

squeeforever 09.02.2007 06:10 PM

Oops...I got that and something else confused. Its the 2 speed then I would assume, correct? Don't they need a 2 speed clutchbell?

2FastSS4U 09.02.2007 07:30 PM

I've had a REVO before and honestly it just wasn't beefy enough for my likings, though it did withstand the horrible beatings I put it through like purposely landing on its lid from 30ft. repeatedly I just couldn't get over how it wasn't a true monster truck IMO, that's why I'm now using all the FLM parts I can get to create the ultimate savage with a center diff(ext. low cg tvp's, ext. a-arms, combo bulks, skids, servo mounts, ect.). It still wont handle as well as a REVO but I'll have more confidence to beat the hell out of it. Any way you go, anything will take quite a bit of upgrading in certain departments, basically it's what fits you best, price, availability, and personal likings are what should matter most.

bb16 09.02.2007 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 116234)
Oops...I got that and something else confused. Its the 2 speed then I would assume, correct? Don't they need a 2 speed clutchbell?

Stock it does, but its quite easy to make one speed.

t-maxxracer32 09.02.2007 10:07 PM

one speed might be a little slow then correct?

anyways im going with the revo. i have a nice chassis already (upgraded shocks, shock holder thing, rpm arms, rpm carriers) and plus i have a SHIET load of tires and rims for it and not to mention bodies... and spare parts.

once i got the truck running i noticed a HUGEEEEE freakin amount of torque (im only using an hv-maxx 4s lipo.) it has uncontrolable torque! haha! i can flip on the back like nothing!! i want to tune this down a bit... i was thinking that the only way to do it is gearing correct? im thinking about adding a couple teeth to my spur and pinion each.. how will that affect it?

also while i was running it i snapped the pin inside the tranny...the one that is right behind the spur gear... where can i order this peice at?


and here is my first real problem... i noticed it was steering left a little so i adjusted it. it goes perfectly straight untill i floor it. once i give it some gas it leans to the right and if i try and correct it just a LITTLE it will veer to the left and flip (over correcting the skid... sort of) im not sure if my shocks are all off or something causing it to lean maybe? or maybe my tires are gripping enough? (using badlands)

if you guys have ever had this problem let me know!

thaks for all your help!

bb16 09.02.2007 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-maxxracer32 (Post 116257)
one speed might be a little slow then correct?

Not if you lock it into high, still has enough torque to flip the car over.


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