Converting a 15lb beastly truggzilla to brushless.
 

I am unbelievably tired of $30 per gallon fuel, tuning, glow plugs, fumes,
break-in, after run oil, air filter cleaning, burnt up clutch every 5 runs, lots of noise, starter boxes, glow ignitors, fuel filters, stinger burns, melted bodys, angry neighbors, losing compression, AIR LEAKS, dirt sticking to the greasy fuel spattered truggy, vibration loosening screws, stalling, fouled glow plugs, blown gaskets and all that crud.

But I don't want to lose the awesome power of nitro, I've been running nitro since the beginning for about 2 years now, last year my dad entered the hobby with a Mambafied B4, My Losi Muggy weighs over 15lbs and still hauls ass.

I can easily place a cola can in the position of the engine so that's about the size electric motor I could use, I want it to top 4hp or something like that so I never miss nitro. If that's possible.

I'll start getting some pictures as soon as my camera is charged.

Here's a really old one. I've upgraded it a lot since then, HS5955tg servo and stuff.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...IMGP0045-1.jpg

4hp isn't needed. You'll be blown away with brushless as compared to nitro, no doubt. What kinda budget and what kinda speed?

What squee said. With the right set up, nothing even comes close. The power is that incredible. :yes:

Nice looking muggy. How did you find the badlands, I have a set on the way? I'm sure these guys can set you up with something you won't be disappointed with. Will definitely dominate nitros and will be far more consistent too.

Since you didn't specify budget.... This would be the ultimate setup IMO:

Neu 1515/2.5D Motor http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...5_2.5dF&cat=20

MGM 224/18 ESC http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...22418CP&cat=21

6s 5000mah Flightpower Lipo http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...6s22.2voltlipo

That would be a wicked powerful setup that would make you forget your slow messy loud nitro forever.:yes:

Hey, Kiwi, welcome to the "Monster"!

I may be going out on a limb here, but did I influence you to come over here? (Were you the guy that was going to trade me this for the Revo's?)

What area are you in? I'm up in Edmonds.

I wouldn't personally run 6S on a 6S Max ESC. Instead, I'd keep a bit of room for error, and to compensate for voltage spikes under braking (just makes it a bit safer and less chance to fry).

However, Jhautz has the idea. for STUPID power I'd personally do 6S on a 16024 with a Neu 1521...

I'm looking to spend under $800, Jthiessen, I don't think that was me, lots of people want to sell their muggies now because of clutch problems I could have converted it many times with the money I spent on the clutch burning up.

I plan to be here for a long time, I've been using LSTforums.com up until now.

BTW,

I got my dad into the hobby with max 5700 in a B4 factory team kit, Are a sure the Mamba max ESC can handle a cola-can motor and 6s lipo?!

The MM can handle more than you think, but I would never run one in a Muggy, or on more than 4S for that matter. You don't need a cola-can sized motor either. I think a Neu 1521 is more than enough. I would personally go with a KB45.

About the 4HP thing: You have to remember that 4HP on a nitro engine is usually at or near max rpm. At lower rpms, there is MUCH less power. Electric HP feels wayyy different than gas engine HP. With electric, you have max torque right at 1rpm, so it feels MUCH more aggressive. IMO, "electric 4HP" would give you grief from blown diffs, twisted axles, etc. Like jhautz said; 6s lipo, 1515 2.5d, and MGM ESC would do well.

On our Austrian Forum we have a german guy (Memkafalamed) running his brushless Muggy with the following setup:

Lehner 2230/13 Hi-Amp
Schulze 40.160WK
6s 2200mah Lipos 25C / 6s 2500mah Lipos 25C

His Muggy wheighs around 5.8Kg (12.78lb). Every electric component runs cool and he managed to get 3rd position in his last race while competing with nitros. His runtime is around 8 minutes on thick grass. Although batteries and motor are on the same side, it is well balanced.

Those are a few low res pics of his setup

http://80.190.202.79/pic/b/bruessow/m1.jpg

http://80.190.202.79/pic/b/bruessow/m2.jpg

I personally would go with a Neu/Jazz kombo with 8s lipo.

No, it must look like this.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...s/IMG_0106.jpg

:lol:

Thats the first time ive ever seen someone put a V8 in their RC. I used to have a Camero with a V8.:whistle:

I don't exactly know what your saying no to, but I can assure you it won't look anywhere near that. First off, no gas tank, second, no huge motor twice the size of anything reasonable, and third, you'll need a place for the batteries, so I'm gonna go ahead and say the RX box has to go.

Boy that is a Large Can size motor......:lol::rofl:

I know that there won't be a fuel tank and I expect to remove the rx box, but isn't there a big motor available, maybe even a brushed?

Will I be able to cut out the throttle servo? Can the ESC apply brakes using the motor's magnetic field?

IMO there is no such thing as overkill as long as it can be made to fit on the chassis and mesh with spur.

A Neu 1515, 1521, or even a 1527 would be more than sufficient even though they aren't as big as a coke can. A brushed motor will have less power than an equivalently sized brushless motor by a substantial margin.

Yes, electronic brakes use the motor.

Kiwi have you ever seen a brushless converted buggy/truggy/muggy?

I suggest you search youtube or google video and find out what your getting yourself into.....a coca cola size motor would rip your muggy to pieces imo!

I would listen to what ppl in this thread are saying they have alot of experience!

http://www.rc-monster.com/tempforum/showthread.php?t=227 almost all the way down on the first page is a pic of a complete muggy. The point that i want to make is the motor is no coke can and fairly well balanced. on 5 s the car was fun to run. 6s the truck shredded off tires, destroyed lexan bodies and was way to much to handle unless your making speed passes down a football field. Kiwi listen to these people. i know it may be shocking or hard to believe that a little ole XL motor would be able to outperform a nitro engine but they do. and they do extremely well