another E-XT8 will be born!!!!!
 

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i just canceled my new emaxx order through my LHS, and ordered a new Xray XT8 to convert instead! i'm so excited, although this is the biggest chunk of change i've dropped at one time on an r/c. :whistle:

i'll be using my LMT 1940/7 and MM, along with 5s a123 racing packs.

it should be here next week - now i gotta get my order in to The Monster for some conversion parts, and Dan from RC Product Designs is graciously working with me on converting it as well (i work about 10 minutes away from him). he also operates an unbeLIEVABLE indoor 1/8 track that i didn't know about!

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sweeT!!

this is the 4th in the last couple months!

i will be getting mine in soon too... just waiting on the ups truck to come.

o and dang!

that track does look awsome

Very nice! Welcome to the XT8 club!!! I have fitted mine with the RC-Monster motor mount and chassis brace. It's beautiful:love:

awesome - congrats to you too then t-maxxracer! sower - i just read you have one too - can i just say how excited i am about this?!?! i feel like a little kid. :party:

i'm a little intimidated as this will be my first non-monster truck experience, but i'm super stoked about it.

same here.

this will be my first "racer truggy" so we will see what i do with it..

right now there is a decent little track right down my street where there are occasional races and when i move to NC next year there are a cuople awsome tracks down there.

so we will see!!

get some pics when you get everything!

o and i thinkthe people who have the xt8s are...

sower
tallyram
dafni
me
and you!

that's sweet you'll have a couple of good tracks when you move - i've always wanted to race r/c's, but i didn't think there was a good track near me (or even a bad one). for some reason, 1/8 scale racing isn't big in michigan - although this track has races every saturday, and supposedly this past weekend, on opening day, they had 143 entries!!

i sent dafni and tallyram a PM, but sower - have you had yours long? any setup tips (shock oil weight, diff oil weights, etc.)? my LHS doesn't carry XRay spare parts, so any suggestions on parts to stock up on?

ClodMaxx, I would say that a general list of spare parts to stock up on are A-Arms, front C hubs and steering blocks, hingepins, and linkages (turnbuckles). For my CRT .5 I have about 1 or 2 of all the previously listed parts, except I have 2 full sets of a-arms.


Interesting that you went with an XT8 instead of the new E. Oh well, maybe you can pick up the new E and leave it stock just so you can hit those puddles! :yes:


One of my hopes is to finish the Revo truggy I have been slowly designing for a month or so now by mid summer. Then I can test it out, dial it in, etc. After that I'm hoping to make it to the RCM bash. :intello: I might have to carpool with someone because I'll still be only 18 next year (which isn't enough to rent a car). :cry:

bp if you cant find anyone to go with i would just fly down there... renting a car would cost a hell of alot more.

gas alone would be easy 4-500 round trip. (if you got a hybrid)

im driving my truck to north carolina next summer (around 2765 miles) and its going to cost an easy 500 just to go there... (v8 f150 gets horrible gas..)

anyways.. i just bought a plane ticket to NC (actually got back yesterday) and it only cost 475 round trip...

so thats just something to think about.

ps. sorry about all the ()()()()

no no, I meant renting a car once I fly there. I'm quite sure there airport and hotel are pretty far away from the track lol...

Second, my plan is to SouthWest that sucka! Hoping to spend no more than 2 or 300 for the round trip air fare.

ooo haha i gotcha! i was wondering why you would want to drive all the way there lol...

where is it at? i wanna say pennsylvannia.. i have no idea why though.

i will be up in NC when it happens so i might just drive there idk.

when is the next bash?

ill have to start planning for it!

o and if i drive there i could probably just be your ride.

its along ways away though so we could just plan later

thanks for the list, BP. as for why i didn't go with the maxx... i've had one for over 2 years now and i just think it's a dated design. while traxxas did improve it a bit, i was pretty disappointed that it wasn't an e-revo. i tend to pick r/c's that are very different from one another (the stealth is just crazy different), and since i've always wanted to race r/c's, i thought... what the heck. i just can't keep looking at the pictures - isn't this just a thing of beauty?!?!
http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/sho...f0e7358298804#
http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/sho...c74321fd95b77c

tmaxx... lol - i got a kick out of all the ()()() :happy:

oh, and BP - if you can't find someone to carpool with, there's always the (loud whistle) TAXI!!

Very true about the Taxi...didn't think of that...but then again I'd rather drive myself and just pay for gas than pay for the service. :oh:

I do agree that the E-Maxx bulk/a-arm system is a VERY VERY VERY dated design. AND I HATE IT! :whip: But I do want something waterproof, and I have come up with a somewhat decent solution to it.

Running aluminum bulks with JDCarbon hingepins and RPM a-Arms. I ran the same thing on my Race-E-Maxx before (except I ran lunsford Titanium pins) and I just bent pins all the time. I figure if I run the JD's and just keep spares, they will just flex or shear (and I doubt they'll shear easily).

Even so, this truck is SOLELY for the snow...Something I need not worry about...and not worry about speed either. Doing 50mph on the snow is just asking to total your truck when that tree pop's out.

the xt8 is a rather beutifull rc car =P

it just looks like a beast of a truck and that is the main thing that i liked about it.

it looks like it can take a beating.

Nope, just the chassis at this point. Sorry, no tips yet. :whistle:

You should like the truggy, even compared to the supermaxx. I went from losing to the other super/gorrilamaxx's most of the time with my brushless e-maxx, with carbon fibre chassis (lowered battery style) to usually beating them or being very close so far after a couple of races with my truggy even though they've had over a year to get them tuned and I've had a couple of weeks. I'm using the same motor, esc, batteries, FDR and tyres as the maxx had, but used the tyres on the maxx when they were new, and they were pretty worn out be the time I got to use them on the truggy.The XT8 should be better than my truggy as well.
In a couple of months or less we should have at least 5 or 6 brushless truggy's at our electric only track, and I'm trying to talk my brother into getting a truggy and start racing again. I have to tell him what setup he should get, so I'm interested in how the XT8's do.
I'm having much more fun racing this brushless truggy so far compared to the maxx.

awesome, guys. thanks for the input.

i had a dream about this thing last night - that's bad, lol.

patrick - that's what i'm stoked for the most - how well it'll handle. the supermaxx handled extremely well for a maxx-based MT, but in going through the instructions for this (downloaded it from the website), there is SO much more i can tweak and adjust.

thanks to tallyram and dafni for all the input via PM, too. you guys rock!

Yeah, that's the thing I'm finding with my truggy as well, there's so much more handling adjustments. Another thing me and the other guys at racing have noticed is that when looking at the cars on the pit bench, the truggy's front wheels turn more than even the UE maxx's and the gorillamaxx's. The front wheels also lean over more when at full lock on the truggy's, so you can tell why they give much better turning, especially through the slower tighter parts of the track.
When racing my maxx (it wasn't UE or gorilla, but it was a racing chassis, setup for racing), I couldn't get good lap times when trying to drive nice and smooth, it just didn't have good enough steering. So to go fast I had to drive it really hard, and always use the rear of the car to do the steering rather than the front. But for my driving skill it seems driving the truggy nice and smooth ends up faster. And the good thing about the slower, smooth driving style is that my consistency is much better and I rarely crash. My normal average with the truggy is about the same, if not slightly better than my best lap of the race would usually be with the maxx, except my average lap time with the maxx was always a 2 or 3 seconds behind my best. And the truggy's using old tires! I went from usually being lapped be the leader to keeping up with the leader. I don't know if it will be the same for every one, but that's what I've found so far.
One guy at my track with a full gorillamaxx and rcm slipperential, got the new Kyosho ST-RR and rcm motor mount from Mike a couple of weeks ago, and should have it ready soon I think. Another guy ("maxd out" on this forum) that has a UE/gorillamaxx with a slipperential is looking at getting a truggy to convert. The guy with the G2R is looking at truggy's, and 2 or 3 other guys that have been out of racing for a while should have their truggys finished soon as well, so racings looking good.

Sorry, I went on for a bit there, I'm just looking forward to racing on Saturday (and with new tires :party:) and I'm enjoying racing more than I have in a long time. I was getting a bit sick of the e-maxx.

All this talk about racing :great:

All this Maxx bashing :bad:

What's this, another project truck Scott? No Rest for the Wicked huh? Glad you are so excited. It sure does make things fun.

How'd you miss a track so close by? You are gonna be a fanatic when it come's to racing. :whip:

my LHS had to order the XT8, and it came in yesterday... i picked it up on my way home from work. the pics are about 6 hours into the build... i've not owned an Xray product before, but their kits are incredible. the fit and finish, design and engineering put into these things would put UE to shame.

oh - and i just put in an order here at the Monster for a chassis plate, LMT motor cover and a couple other small things. :great:

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Looking good!! :smile: Nice job on the build. I have never seen any up close pictures of the XT8 except for these, but it sure looks purty. :yes:

i wanna see it done!

i should have mine done in about a week =)

Plastic chassis brace and knockle for a $600.00 "luxury" machine:gasp::surprised:

Too bad.....

i thought the same when i got it but you should see how well built it is. i bet the diffs make this thing crazy expensive. plus have you seen the thickness of the plastic?

dayum.

Why?? what,s the diffs have of so special???
I'am looking for a new buggy now, and i'am very hesitant between a Mugen MBX5R aand the X-Ray XB8EC.
I've a MBX5 buggy and i love the way it's build, but never seen a X-Ray, only on pics.
I ever have the Mugen motor mount, so if i take an X-ray, i'll have to buy another mount, but it's not a reason to not take the XRay.

It's a very dificult choice to do.

the Mugen have a lot of hopups already in the box, like the rear CNC hub carrier, CNC chassis brace, spare castor block adjustement plate, and what i realy love on the Mugen is the front pillow ball suspension, very solid and never loose his camber adjustment. I know somes say that the Mugen diffs tend to leak a little, but have somes tips to stop it to leak.

The X-Ray is beautiful, bling bling color drive shaft, black anodize aluminium parts, but don't know anythings about diffs durability. Need to upgrade to aluminium CNC chassis brace and front knockle.

I've to take my decision before tomorow 5:00 PM, because my LHS place is order at this time.

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well if you look ...

to buy upgraded diffs for the revo it is around 200 bucks.

these already come with the truggy diffs so id say the diffs alone are around 200. so then your paying about 15 per shocks tower (they are aluminum or w/e)
id say about 75 bucks for full cvds everywhere
that alone is 300 bucks.

i just think the truck is quality. from the start.

IMO it is full RPM and aluminum. the plastic is nice as hell.

more progress last night and today. added the front steering rack and turnbuckles, front brace, and got the whole center diff put together and installed. i have the mechanical brakes on it - i don't plan to use them, but have them on 'cause they look cool. :mdr: not sure if they'll cause a problem on there or not.

david - we can't tell you how to spend your money, but i can tell you that you won't regret buying any Xray kit (buggy or truggy). i've done a lot of research before buying this, and i have never, ever heard of a diff problem. these are 1/8 scale diffs, and are great quality - maybe there was a bad batch of gears somewhere in the past, but i'm sure it's worked out.

i bought mike's chassis plate to stiffen everything instead of buying the aluminum braces. but even the Xray team drivers are running stock plastic front brace.

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Yea, the plastic braces are there for a reason. Most people leave them because with the aluminum, its to rigid for a blown out track, which a lot get to be after a day of hard racing. The aluminum braces are mostly run on blue groove tracks. Its not to say the quality is bad. There just there to allow some flex in the chassis, which is necessary in most conditions. Also, I think the front knuckles are aluminum. I think there just anodized black and look plastic. I haven't seen a buggy or truggy with plastic front knuckles.

Welllll, i was suppose to take another buggy, but now:neutral:
I realy think to go truggy...... And i realy think to the XT8:smile:
But is the RCM chassis plate is necessary on this truggy???

you can always add the chassis plate later if you find you need it. Dafni lost a diff pinion because of the chassis flex at the RCM bash, and designed that plate with mike - which fixed his chassis flex problem. i think it had more to do with the jumps on that particular track though. but you can try the truck stock and if it flexes too much - add the plate later.

BUT - the front knuckles are indeed plastic. Xray makes aluminum knuckles and rear hub carriers as options, but i just wanted to let you know in case that's a deal-breaker (which it shouldn't be). they also make aluminum front and rear braces, if your heart is set on that too. :smile:

Wow, plastic front knuckles aren't exactly my first choice...That would be the first thing to go...

I've never heard of anyone designing chassis flex into their vehicles.
The last thing you need in any environment is chassis flex...
It sounds like you need either Alum F/R braces or the RCM Alum center brace
My first choice would be the RCM brace or BOth if the funds are available

Starscream, I personally thought the same thing, but with truggies and buggies, its a different story than most. I read it in RCCA when they did the article on Ronda Skelton (it was the "Inside Pro Rides" article they do in every issue). She has the Mugen MBX5T runs the plastic braces, just like the Xrays have, to allow flex.

Wow, thats a first for me :rules:
Check out this snipit from the XT8 description:
Extra-robust Braces
Extra-robust composite braces are keyed to the chassis, guaranteeing overall chassis stiffness but still being flexible enough to allow the car to generate sufficient grip and provide the desired steering characteristics.

Xray is really big into chassis flex. Check out there on-road cars, they are designed so that you can change the handling characteristics by adding or removing certain screws to add or take away chassis flex. It is really helpful if you are running a touring car with rubber tires on asphalt or carpet. With foams on carpet you want your car pretty stiff, but with rubber the chassis flex adds grip.

But why the chassis flex have bring a diff pinion for Dafni's truck????

That wasn't the reason it failed. There was a bad batch from Xray, and I guess that was one of them.

something interesting i found from Xray's forum (this is per Xray) for the XB8, but i'm sure the same applies for the XT8 too:

The XB8EC chassis is manufactured from premium Swiss 7075 T6 and is hardcoated on XRAY‘s own fully-automatic state-of-the-art robotic hardcoating line.

Some XB8EC drivers who were used to the XB8TQ may feel that the chassis is softer, but please note that the XB8EC chassis is not softer but rather it is more flexible due to the use of composite braces both front and rear. The XB8TQ included both composite and aluminum braces and experience has shown us that most customers installed the aluminum braces; this made the XB8TQ chassis flex less and in most racing conditions where a more flexible chassis was required the XB8TQ did not have sufficient traction. For this reason XRAY decided to include only the composite braces in the XB8EC kit, which can be used in most standard racing conditions as they provide more chassis flex, making the car easier to drive.

i also took the truggy as far as i can take it right now. the next step is to take it to Dan for the conversion. then, when i get the middle chassis plate from mike, i'll install that too. then i have to figure out what paint scheme i plan to go with.

the shot of the XT8 next to the Stealth is just to show scale, even though they both are 1/8 scale.

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Wow, thats one big truggy. On the length difference, I think if you had the Stealth setup with a higher center ground clearance, that would reduce the length a fair bit probably.

Well, I figured I should get in on the action too, so here's some pics of my XT8. I posted some of them in the other thread too. I got mine on eBay and it had been raced three times. The guy put some nice hop ups on it as you'll see in the photos. It came with the black anodized aluminum front knuckles as well as the rear uprights, all the steering blocks have been replaced with the aluminum ones too. The front chassis brace is aluminum but the rear is plastic. The guy also made some nice CF mud guards that attach to the rear suspension arms. I also have the RC-Monster motor mount and chassis brace on it right now as well as the servo piece. I'm working on a revision to the mud guards so they're not on right now. Well, here it is:

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