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BL_RV0 12.16.2007 06:46 PM

Align 600xl in revo on 4s-6s.... what esc?
 
i wanna run the align 600xl motor in a E-revo with 4s-6s batts. what speed will i get with each? and what esc would work well?

zeropointbug 12.17.2007 01:47 AM

I would go with either the Quark 125, or one of the MGM controllers.

BL_RV0 12.17.2007 11:22 AM

well i was thinking about the MM and the polyquest 4s lipo. with a 30-50c discharge rate, that should be enough to make it really move.....right? i might use the $275 quark controller. but i was thinking about the kontronik jaxx 80-6-18. would that be a good choice?

BL-Power 12.17.2007 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 135242)
well i was thinking about the MM and the polyquest 4s lipo. with a 30-50c discharge rate, that should be enough to make it really move.....right? i might use the $275 quark controller. but i was thinking about the kontronik jaxx 80-6-18. would that be a good choice?

I am also using the Jazz 80-6-18. Its really good controller, and it peforms very well, i've never had any signs of cogging. If you use a data recorder, you will see that you can't get more than 1300watts out of it on 4s Lipo. I am using mine on 6s Lipo and i have peaks up to 2000watts an the Jazz is still cool like a stone :yes:
Its a very nice controller :party:

BL_RV0 12.17.2007 11:38 AM

what motor are you using?

lincpimp 12.17.2007 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 135242)
well i was thinking about the MM and the polyquest 4s lipo. with a 30-50c discharge rate, that should be enough to make it really move.....right? i might use the $275 quark controller. but i was thinking about the kontronik jaxx 80-6-18. would that be a good choice?

Go quark, or the kontronic. The MM will not run the align 600, or any other outrunner(save for crawler apps). The quark works well for me, I actually used the roadster 65 on an align 600l in a 2wd emaxx. I would say that if you are going to run 5s that you could use the quark 80 or a mgm 90 amp esc to save some money. The align motor will not spin very fast on 4s so you will have some high gearing, and most likely need an esc with over 100amp rating. I ran my emaxx on 4400 5s 20c lipos and they stayed cool, as did the quark 65 and the motor. It was geared for around 40mph.

BL-Power 12.17.2007 01:02 PM

I was using a Kontronik Fun 600/15, then a Align 600L and now i'm using a Neu 1515/2.5D. They are all working fine with the Jazz!

lincpimp 12.17.2007 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BL-Power (Post 135266)
I was using a Kontronik Fun 600/15, then a Align 600L and now i'm using a Neu 1515/2.5D. They are all working fine with the Jazz!

What did you think of the fun 600/15? Was it a good motor, better than a feigao? I am sure that the neu is better than the kon and align motors.

BL-Power 12.17.2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 135279)
What did you think of the fun 600/15? Was it a good motor, better than a feigao? I am sure that the neu is better than the kon and align motors.

I think that the Kontronik Motors arent much better than the Feigaos. My one was running very hot if i just geared up a little bit. I wouldnt buy them again, they have 3 times the price of a Feigao and they are not so much better. What do you think of them?

lincpimp 12.17.2007 02:24 PM

Interesting, thanks for the test info. I was going to try a kno motor, but if they are not that much better than a feigao there is no point. Just wondered. I do have a jazz 40-6-18 esc that i will use in something, maybe with an aveox 1300kv motor on 6s lipo! In a 1/8 scale buggy or similar size/weight vehicle. We will see if it holds up!

BL-Power 12.17.2007 02:50 PM

A 40-6-18? Do you think it can take it can take the amps without thermal issues? I think its a bit too small, i am using this Jazz in my MiniQuake :party:

squeeforever 12.17.2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 135258)
Go quark, or the kontronic. The MM will not run the align 600, or any other outrunner(save for crawler apps). The quark works well for me, I actually used the roadster 65 on an align 600l in a 2wd emaxx. I would say that if you are going to run 5s that you could use the quark 80 or a mgm 90 amp esc to save some money. The align motor will not spin very fast on 4s so you will have some high gearing, and most likely need an esc with over 100amp rating. I ran my emaxx on 4400 5s 20c lipos and they stayed cool, as did the quark 65 and the motor. It was geared for around 40mph.

If I'm not mistaken, the MM will run outrunners.

lincpimp 12.17.2007 04:10 PM

You may be correct. I will first try it in my tamiya m03 fwd chassis. I have a hacker b40 18s (2600kv)motor and will try 4s lipo and see how it does. I have been using a quark 33 in the m03 with a 4000kv 380 size motor on 3s lipo. The kontronic/hacker combo should be better! A jazz 55 would be better in the buggy and would let me run 7s lipo with no issue thru the 1300kv aveox motor

BL-Power 12.17.2007 04:17 PM

Yeah, a Jazz 55-10-32 would be the perfect ESC for your buggy :yes:

BL_RV0 12.18.2007 11:05 AM

so i should go with the jazz 80-6-18? what motor if i run 5s lipo would be the BEST?

lincpimp 12.18.2007 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 135298)
If I'm not mistaken, the MM will run outrunners.


Yes the MM will, but not in a high load/high rpm application. It did not like the align motor and have seen it have issues with small outrunners in crawlers. I actually played with the programming on my friend's crawler and made it better. But it would still stall the motor sometimes and not be able to turn it over. I have had much more success with quark controllers for outrunner applications.

BL_RV0 12.18.2007 12:02 PM

whats an ideal motor for the jazz 80a esc on, say, 16 cell nimh or 6s lipo for a e-revo?

lincpimp 12.18.2007 01:29 PM

About 1600kv on the motor, maybe a 10-11xl feigao.

BL-Power 12.18.2007 04:44 PM

I was using a Jazz 80-6-18 with a Feigao 11XL on 6s Lipo in my HB LSP Truggy and this combo worked great :yipi:

cart213 12.19.2007 10:50 PM

I just got a 600XL but haven't had time to try it yet. It will be paired with my Barracuda 125 in my MGT. Hopefully these two will play nice with each other when powered by 7s2p A123 cells. :smile: I'll get around to trying it during my Christmas break next week. My goal is to crack the 50mph mark.


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