friend wants to start RC what to buy?
 

hey guys a freind of mine might get into RC cars. i was telling him about mine and he seems very interested. he rides quads so he will probably want a gas truck (due to the sound)

what do you think would be a good truck?


the new savages look pretty mean
maybe a 3.3 revo for simplicity of the motor?
new MGT?

i really dont think he will want to spend more than 500. hell he might not want to even spend more than 300 idk.

ima talk to him tonight and see what he wants to do

my first thought was the new emaxx... problem is he would need a charger.... batteries... and all that good stuff.

which will probably get him well over 500.

lmk if you guys have any suggestions!!

later after talking to him i will post up what he is looking for.

thanks!

if he wants nitro - cant go wrong with the 3.3 revo - i have one - and its way fun - jmho... Whatever he gets - im sure he will be hooked..... Enjoy

ya idk. i like the beastliness of the savage
but ik the revo is a nice truck

MGT

By far the easiest to tune. Traxxas engines are finicky. I've had 4 of them so far and hated each one. Savage is decent, but hasn't been updated and the new MGT is beastly. Seen the vids of it yet? Spins the tires into 2nd with that .50 engine. And it's drill start, which he's bound to have.

I've had two MGTs and another is sitting at my home, waiting to be fired up. Go for the MGT man!

hmmmmmmm you lookin to sell one of the mgts? is it the 8.0? or the older one?

i want a BEASTLY truck. and idk why but i dont think the revo is that truck...

i showed the guy the revo 3.3 mgt 8.0 and the savage he said the revo looked the coolest.

so idk

Revo is good with a brushless setup or a 18 TM. The 3.3 isn't bad, just lacks some torque unless tuned perfectly.

The last two MGTs I had were the original AE .21. Both of them were broken in by me, both of them ran like they were meant to be started once, tuned once, and then refueled again and again - because that's what I did with mine. The one I have waiting for me is a 4.6 and should be plenty of power. I'm looking to get a 2nd one for the girlfriend instead of PinkVo since it's just easier to fuel up and go. These trucks are pretty stout too, not to mention easy to work on. Oh, and these trucks can handle any engine. They're throwing in .50s from the factory with the MGT 8.0. He won't be dissappointed with it!

All the electronics come out with a few screws, then you can just blast it with some cleaner. I'm gonna keep mine fairly stock, only upgrades will be for strenghts or cool factor.

well from the way you talk it seems to be an awsome truck.

hell i might get one for myself.

They're great for first time users who want a nitro truck, durability, and power.

That 8.0 will be a BEAST!

I'd go with a Savage before a MGT. I just never liked em, mostly because there a ripoff of the Maxx trucks. Granted, they have improvements, but either way, there a ripoff of the design.

MGT improved the weak bulkhead design of maxx and they are great bashers.
I would go for muggy as they have simple drive train, great suspension. just add vantage carbon low torque pipe and they are beasts (well baby beasts compared to brushless trucks :) )

Savage is a very limited design. They didn't design enough suspension points and I've seen too many TVPs, shocks, and arms bend and break. Not to mention I've had many of my buddies replace their Savage engines within 2 gallons of running them. They like to run hot too, like Traxxas engines.

And yes, the MGT is a big block Maxx, which is what the 3.3 Maxx should have been. Yet, it's stronger and has a better chassis design and layout.

Remember, this isn't going to be his first and last R/C - if he likes the hobby. If he gets something finicky and action packed with problems, he's not going to stay interested. Sorry to say, but the Savage isn't very first time user friendly. I think HPI did do a good job of making their first MT, but it did have a few flaws.

Losi, however, has been making the move into user friendly R/Cs for a few years now. A lot of their kits have higher end electronics and engines. I agree, if he makes a decision, it should be a Losi or an AE.

Watch out for the muggy, clutch shoes do not last, too high gearing in the diffs, and the center spur is not big enough. You either need to figure out how to lower the diff ratio or add a tranny insted of the center spur. That is why the lst works ok and the muggy melts clutch shoes. I have fixed about a dozen so far.

i would not get a muggy. i had one and it was a PEICE. not my kind of truck. always had problems with it.

you know instead of spending 500 bucks on a new truck what i could do is take my crt BL roller and convert it back to nitro. all i would need is the engine mounts right? i could get a nice BRAND new motor and a nice pipe and it would be a sweet truck right?

or are the CRT not bash worthy?

Putting in another vote for the MGT here. I've got one I'm selling to a friend cheap so he can get involved with the RC fun.

I'm getting rid of all my nitro headache, the MGT was by far the easiest to stay tuned and start without shoulder pain, which is why I feel OK about selling it to a friend. Bullet proof truck, I've rebuilt the shocks and put a few sper gears in it, that's all.

Second to the MGT I would say a Losi XXXT would be my next suggestion (stay away from nitro all togeather, less mess, no pissed neighbors, more driving fun). Every LHS I've been in that serviced surface RC's had every part for the XXXT in stock, huge bonus.

if i were to go electric id go with a rustler. i want a 4WD MT though

seems like the MGT is it though

the Hotbodies lightning GT10 is a reallly nice truck, type in hotbodies GT10 on youtube and watch the videos, then tell you buddy to watch the videos and itll forsure have his attention.

I also vote for the MGT.. it's a nice truck...

seems that if i buy a new truck the MGT is the way to go.

if i decided to drop in an engine on my crt and put some bigger tires on it (to make it look more like a MT) how do you think it would perform? would it be durable enough? im sure it would since its meant for racing.

also what engine would be a nice dropin?

Are you looking for a cheap engine, or something really reliable and race worthy?

Cheap: IMO, nitro engines are like that old saying: You get what you pay for. I see a lot of guys running Picco P3 engines, Ofna engines, Losi engines, blah blah. If I get a replacement engine for any of my trucks, I always look at OS first.

Reliable and race worthy - RB, Ninja, but would go with an OS VZ-B or any of their other big blocks over any others.

well i might not race it idk. probably just take it out places and mess around.

one of my freinds rides quads so maybe ill go riding quads w/ him then drive our rc cars also.

idk.

i still have to see if he wants to get one.

if not ill just keep my truck the way it is or something idk. i never use it. its like 1000 dollars just sitting being wasted.

Why don't you use it?

I stuffed my Revo in a box for 8 months when I first joined. I had no use for it then with all the training and running around I was doing. I didn't sell it since I knew the bug would hit me again.

2 reasons why i dotn use it.

lack of time.
lack of people to do it with.

sure i can go to the track and have fun but i almost always work the days its open. also its not too much fun since i go by myself and i dont like the owner of the track.

i wish i could bash it more but its not fun going out somewhere by myself.

ya i COULD keep it and maybe buy 2 dewalt packs (2 5s2p setups)

that would give me around 45 minutes of fun along with my 4500 FP pack but i feel like gas is funner when someeone else has gas. you hear them going and you dont have to worry about running out of battery.

sure you will run outta gas but then you just fill it up

i do realize gas is expensive and in the long run it will be more money but in the shorterm it is nice.

i was thinkiing about maybe getting a 5B because then it would require no motor maintancence and gas is a HELL of alot cheaper. problem is the size. i dont know if it will be too big. a sort of freind of mine has one and so i was talking to him today and asked if i could drive it sometime. im thinking of taking it out with me when i go riding quads with my g/f and freinds.

then i can see what i wanna do.

i am always going to be indecisive or w/e the word is when it comes to doing things. sometimes i REALLY wanna do things and other times i could care less. idk what it is but o well i deal with it.

Forgot to tell you, the Axial engines are getting some good feedback, you might want to try one of those in the CRT.

+1 on that. The Axial .28RR engine is a great deal. At $140 or so its the best nitro bang for the buck out there IMO. I have one and just slapped it in an old buggy, broke it in and it has run flawlessly ever since. Tunning is the easiest I have had and it holds a tune prefectly. Not sure how it will do when it starts to get up in gallons. I'm sure it will not last as long as a high end motor, but for a cheap motor that runs strong and tunes easy they are very nice IMO.

alright well if i decide to drop in a gas engine ill try that one out.

if i were to stick with BL what battery would get me the best runtime with a 4s setup spending around 2-300?

i figure i could buy 2 dewalt packs making 2 5s2p setups and that would give me some good runtimes correct? around 30 minutes (15 min each)

or i could get a 5ah evo 30 and how long would that give me?

the a123s would be nice IMO because of the quick charge time.

if i had a dc-ac power converter in my truck could i run my PS and charger in the truck?

thanks!

I think a converted Hellfire Truggy would be perfect. And I happen to know someone who is looking for a home for their hellfire - I'd even finish it for you. :smile:

lol dang we got a salesmen up in here!!

Not really, just someone looking to fund their next project, lol.

:lol:

I chuckled when I read Brian's post. Spoken wisely...haha.


You should try a TrueRC 8000mah 4s. They're $140, I think. Their 4000mah are $75 and the 5000mah are $90. Not bad! I'll be getting my next lipo through them.

well ya i could go with the 4s 8ah packs from true-rc for 140 but the main reason i want the a123s is because of the charge time. how long would a 8ah true rc pack run for? and how long would it take to charge?
im guessing hour to charge likea 30 minute runtime

Run for 40+ min, charge at 1.5 hrs I suppose....

well i guess if i got 2 of those packs i wouldnt need anymore runtime... gas trucks probably only have like a 10-15 minute gas tank and i dont think we will play with the trucks for more than 40 min atta time.

if i got 2 4s 8ah packs at 140 a peice i would think that those 2 packs plus my FP pack that should be plenty.

By the way, check this out -

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXMUM3&P=ML

just wanted to update this.

the freind bought a REALLY old electric rustler off some guy and it looked like a peice of junk when he first brought it over but after about 30 minutes i fixed it up and its up and running really nice.

i put on an xps esc... some trinity motor.. got him 4 shocks... some intellect 3800 batteries and lots more.

hes REALLY excited about the truck and is pretty happy that i got it going for him.

he basically got a nice little rustler for 30 bucks. (i didnt charge him)

one more person is soon to be hooked!!

o.

and i let him drive my xt8...

he was AMAZED by the power. he kept saying "no way... no way!!!"

so i think soon he will want a bl setup in his truck.

or maybe a big 4wd MT!