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Chapito 12.28.2007 04:25 PM

Pics of my 8lectic:
 
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My new 8lectric pics:

Chapito 12.28.2007 04:27 PM

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Under the bonnet..................

lxmuff 12.28.2007 04:53 PM

Nice. Have you had a chance to run it yet?

sapper_triple6 12.28.2007 08:18 PM

Very nice. I'm still debating whether or not to convert my 8ight. Dont know if I want to drop the $$$ for LiPo and I think NiMh would be too heavy.

Chapito 12.28.2007 09:49 PM

I have not(except for about two minutes in the driveway). Tomorrow's races will be the first runs on it. I am confident it will perform admirably. I have been runin' the Neu and Quark in an 8T for about 9 months already.

squeeforever 12.28.2007 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by sapper_triple6 (Post 137063)
Very nice. I'm still debating whether or not to convert my 8ight. Dont know if I want to drop the $$$ for LiPo and I think NiMh would be too heavy.

I don't see why everybody complains about the cost. You can get a set of LiPos as cheap or cheaper than a set of NiMH...

starscream 12.28.2007 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 137073)
I don't see why everybody complains about the cost. You can get a set of LiPos as cheap or cheaper than a set of NiMH...

You also have to factor in the new hardware needed for charging/balancing and mounting & protecting the Lipo's on the chassis as well as the learning curve for the new batt chemistry as not to destroy your new investments.
Lipo's are not for folks who do not want to worry about low voltage cutoffs, discharge cutoffs, current ratings and thermal runaway :surprised:.
My vote would be A123's for those types of users as the A123's are lighter than nimh's and are not as fragile/temperamental as Lipo's.

t-maxxracer32 12.28.2007 11:03 PM

to get nimh battery packs to be as expensive as lipos you will need to get some QUALITY batteries.

he may be talking about some cheap gp3300s or something. you can get some nice little 14 cell nimh packs for less than 100 bucks.

compared to lipos that are around 140 for the cheepest 4 cell pack.

lincpimp 12.28.2007 11:07 PM

Actually if you look sround you can find lipos cheap. I bought a pair of 3600 12c 2s polyquest lipos for 32 bucks each from cheapbatterypacks a few months ago. They were so good I bought another 2. Now I have a pair of 3600 4s packs, so I have over 80 amps cont plus 7200 mah of capacity. All for about $130 inc s/h. My supervee runs really good now!

squeeforever 12.28.2007 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 137093)
Actually if you look sround you can find lipos cheap. I bought a pair of 3600 12c 2s polyquest lipos for 32 bucks each from cheapbatterypacks a few months ago. They were so good I bought another 2. Now I have a pair of 3600 4s packs, so I have over 80 amps cont plus 7200 mah of capacity. All for about $130 inc s/h. My supervee runs really good now!

Point proven. :mdr:

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Originally Posted by starscream (Post 137085)
You also have to factor in the new hardware needed for charging/balancing and mounting & protecting the Lipo's on the chassis as well as the learning curve for the new batt chemistry as not to destroy your new investments.
Lipo's are not for folks who do not want to worry about low voltage cutoffs, discharge cutoffs, current ratings and thermal runaway :surprised:.
My vote would be A123's for those types of users as the A123's are lighter than nimh's and are not as fragile/temperamental as Lipo's.

I'm just referring to the cost factor. Nobody mentioned the things that go with LiPo usage, like being cautious for one. Something that should be used either way...LiPo or not.

t-maxxracer32 12.29.2007 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 137093)
Actually if you look sround you can find lipos cheap. I bought a pair of 3600 12c 2s polyquest lipos for 32 bucks each from cheapbatterypacks a few months ago. They were so good I bought another 2. Now I have a pair of 3600 4s packs, so I have over 80 amps cont plus 7200 mah of capacity. All for about $130 inc s/h. My supervee runs really good now!


got me on that one.

i guess you have to search around.

lincpimp 12.29.2007 03:34 AM

Yeah t-maxxracer, I happen upon a lot of good deals while surfing the net, and some sites have clearance sections, so I try to keep a mental note to check them often. I just bought a sportwerks chaos from stormer hobbies for 110 shipped. The lhs is trying to sell theirs for 275, and I know that cost for them was over 200.:lol:

starscream 12.29.2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 137099)
Point proven. :mdr:



I'm just referring to the cost factor. Nobody mentioned the things that go with LiPo usage, like being cautious for one. Something that should be used either way...LiPo or not.

Cost is a relative term...
If you are converting to Lipo then you MUST take into account ALL the aspects of the new battery chemistry.

If you are strictly referring to a monetary setback then you have to also take into account the additional monetary setback for the additional hardware needed to support the new battery chemistry i.e. charger's, lvc's, balancer's etc.

sapper_triple6 12.30.2007 12:30 PM

Yeah I was referring more to the cost of the whole package. Not just the packs. Also the fact that I am just a basher. Im not overly concerned with the best runtimes and max performance.

macr0w 12.30.2007 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapito (Post 137027)
Under the bonnet..................

Boy!!! Is that a 1515/1/Y/F in that buggy or what? :surprised:

What kind of gearing and packs/voltage are you going to run?

entjoles 12.30.2007 10:48 PM

check his sig.

yes on the motor
4s pn the V

Chapito 12.30.2007 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by macr0w (Post 137360)
Boy!!! Is that a 1515/1/Y/F in that buggy or what? :surprised:

What kind of gearing and packs/voltage are you going to run?

Yes, it is!!!

I raced the buggy Sat. night. TQ'd and won the main. It is geared 13/48 and I am running 4s lipo. First qualifier I ran a Poly RC 3700 for 2 hot practice laps and 5 min.s; finished 2nd and used 1569mah. Second qualifier I ran a firefox 3700 for 1 lazy practice lap and 5 min.: TQ'd and used over 1900mah of battery. Main I ran a Enermax 5000, 1 hot lap, 5 min. main, Won and used about 1650mah of juice. Temps were consistently 110-motor, 105-Quark(without Hautz's heatsink), and 90-battery except for the crappy firefox which was down to 115 from it's normal 135 range. It wieghs in somewhere between 8.5 and 9 lbs depending on which battery I have in it but was generaly well behaved and probably had 3-5 m.p.h. more than the fastest nitro @ the track. Also, it is super smoooooth compared to the Truggy.
I am very pleased with it......:mdr:

gixxer 12.31.2007 12:11 AM

looks good. also i will agree about the firefox pack. I have a 4s 3700 and it never gets used because its just not the same as my other packs.

JeffEmbracedDC 12.31.2007 01:37 AM

Antonio... I want your buggy. Wanna trade 8ights?

But no, seriously. I'm considering swapping my electric gear to the 8ight. I'll have to see what the cheapest LiPo I can get is. Got any suggestions?

-Jeff

Chapito 12.31.2007 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffEmbracedDC (Post 137412)
Antonio... I want your buggy. Wanna trade 8ights?

But no, seriously. I'm considering swapping my electric gear to the 8ight. I'll have to see what the cheapest LiPo I can get is. Got any suggestions?

-Jeff


I honestly think that unless you plan to run RC Pro, Texas or that other nitro series that was soooo well organized that converting your 8ight is the best way to maximize your fun time. Of coarse, I'm biased because I want another electric to run with when we can't race with the nitro's at organized events occurring at our local tracks. If you parted with the OFNA and your nitro engine you could partially bankroll a battery tray and MMM or RX8 when they become available. The RC Product Designs top plate is perfect for mounting your current MM in the 8ight. I responded on your other post about batteries. See ya next race day.

skillx 01.12.2008 02:01 AM

I got something for your hot fire right here bud.


http://www.customvisualconcepts.com/777.jpg

I picked it from Elliot yesterday. Going to be 4S with MM and Pletty or 10xl. Ordered the mount from Mike yesterday as well as a tray.


Sorry I missed you last Saturday at Toys but i blew my Monster 125 during practice in the 8T and was so mad I packed up and left. This Saturday is Monster Jam so no racing but were picking back up the following Saturday. I plan on bringing the truggy and my new buggy so show up if you can. BTW the 8uggy LOOKS GREAT!:yes:

Chapito 01.12.2008 11:25 AM

I was wondering what happened to you. I took a schoolin' in the qualies that day and ended up blowing off the main and driving back to race here at home. Sadly, the 8T went away to pay for the 8. I did race the buggy at Toys last week, qualified just below mid-pack, and attempted to run the 15 min. main. At about 12 minutes I thermal glitched just after the Triple and decided I better shut it down; 80degree temps and no heatsink on the Quark. I never did run pace with the leaders but I set my personal best lap times for any RC vehicle on that track so it was somewhat of a success. If I make it up, I'll bring you a couple of goodies, I have no future use for my original battery/esc mount for the 8T and I've got an almost new Proline wing I inherited that is drilled for a 777. Nice score on El's buggy; I know that thing is capable of podium finishes. Still can't believe he bailed on Kyosho though. That was a looooong relationship.

skillx 01.12.2008 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapito (Post 140620)
I was wondering what happened to you. I took a schoolin' in the qualies that day and ended up blowing off the main and driving back to race here at home. Sadly, the 8T went away to pay for the 8. I did race the buggy at Toys last week, qualified just below mid-pack, and attempted to run the 15 min. main. At about 12 minutes I thermal glitched just after the Triple and decided I better shut it down; 80degree temps and no heatsink on the Quark. I never did run pace with the leaders but I set my personal best lap times for any RC vehicle on that track so it was somewhat of a success. If I make it up, I'll bring you a couple of goodies, I have no future use for my original battery/esc mount for the 8T and I've got an almost new Proline wing I inherited that is drilled for a 777. Nice score on El's buggy; I know that thing is capable of podium finishes. Still can't believe he bailed on Kyosho though. That was a looooong relationship.

Hope you make it up. Yeah, I can't believe that either about E. Just too funny seeing the "CASTER" buggy going around the track. As far as that Quark goes I may have a goodie for you. I do have Mike's heatsink for it if you want it. I am going away from Quark completly. Your welcome to it if you need/want it.

Chapito 01.12.2008 12:52 PM

I've been in the process of gettin' away from the Quark for a while now.........

Unfortunately, MGM is not where I'm going and Castle and/or Tekin have not aided me in my travels yet.

mwry13 01.17.2008 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by macr0w (Post 137360)
Boy!!! Is that a 1515/1/Y/F in that buggy or what? :surprised:

What kind of gearing and packs/voltage are you going to run?

I use the same motor / battery voltage setup in the car i ran at the Kyosho Challenenge... very good setup for a buggy in my opinion.

neweuser 01.17.2008 03:27 PM

I happen to love my 1515 1/y f Quark set up....i run mine in a maxx

futurespeed 01.30.2008 11:24 PM

Where do you TX guys race your electric 1/8 scales? My home track is JCG in Euless, TX, but I haven't run my E-8ight on the track yet.

skillx 01.30.2008 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by futurespeed (Post 145209)
Where do you TX guys race your electric 1/8 scales? My home track is JCG in Euless, TX, but I haven't run my E-8ight on the track yet.

http://www.toys4bb.com/

Couple of us running BL 8th scalers.

JeffEmbracedDC 01.31.2008 12:06 AM

The home track of Chapito and I is StarCar Raceway in Corpus Christi, TX. www.StarCarRC.com.

Chapito 01.31.2008 12:15 AM

I live in Corpus Christi and my hometrack is Starcar. I also race @ RC Headquarters(formerly Toys 4 Big Boys) in San Antonio and Gears in Harlingen. All three of those tracks are electric friendly and run 15 min.s or less for A-mains. I also know that a couple of guys have begun to run 1/8th scale electrics at Ncontrol in Austin; Check their RCfiles forum for a thread on 1/8th scale electrics. Of coarse, electric 1/8 scales are not allowed to compete in Roar or RC Pro nitro events(with the exception of Standard Monster in RC Pro). As far as the DFW area, I have no idea about JCG's or Indy but I think most tracks are more than happy to take your money at local events if you think you can make run time for the mains and keep up with the fast nitro guys. There may be electric 1/8th scale offered as an "exhibition" class at upcoming RC Pro events. Keep an eye on the forums for future updates.

skillx 01.31.2008 10:43 AM

Great slow motion shot of Chapito airing one out over the big jump at the end of the main straight! Is this the A-Main you thermaled in? :lol:

http://www.promofo-racing.org/T4BB-Buggy-126.html

Chapito 01.31.2008 12:44 PM

Negative. That was my first full(almost) 15 min. A-main. Unfortunately, I have'nt yet figured out how to keep pace with El, Will, and the Wedding Singer so my camera time was basically limited to those two jumps. I was also left laying on my lid in the middle of the track for the better part of a lap by a seriously neglagent corner marshall. The track, which is the most power hungry one I run at, ate up 4500 mah for the 14:30 or so I was actually running and I was considerably down on "puch" the last 2 or 3 minutes of the race. Hopefully, when JeffEmbraced's is finished we can make the trip up, get you to show, and run our own 10 min. main. Fifteen is fine at Starcar or Gears but a little closer than i'd like to push it on a reguler basis in San Antonio.

skillx 01.31.2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chapito (Post 145328)
Negative. That was my first full(almost) 15 min. A-main. Unfortunately, I have'nt yet figured out how to keep pace with El, Will, and the Wedding Singer so my camera time was basically limited to those two jumps. I was also left laying on my lid in the middle of the track for the better part of a lap by a seriously neglagent corner marshall. The track, which is the most power hungry one I run at, ate up 4500 mah for the 14:30 or so I was actually running and I was considerably down on "puch" the last 2 or 3 minutes of the race. Hopefully, when JeffEmbraced's is finished we can make the trip up, get you to show, and run our own 10 min. main. Fifteen is fine at Starcar or Gears but a little closer than i'd like to push it on a reguler basis in San Antonio.

Guess I should have know that by the date..:oh: Anyhoo it was a awesome vid. I can't see how you aren't getting 15minutes out of your packs. I was at toys with my Kyosho all day today practicing and my 4S 5000mah maxamp packs are netting me 18 to 19 minutes at race pace. The MM and Pletty are playing nice together after the update. E and I drove it on 5S and it was just a BEAST! Would jump all the way into the fence on the big jump, would do the double, triple, quad, with no probs, only real issue was the triple after the sharp downhill left hander. I still can't get that smooth..so I am doubling and single out. You going to make it up the Saturday?

Chapito 01.31.2008 08:08 PM

Won't make it this saturday. We're racing here on our new layout, minus smoothing and obstacles. I may come on the 9th if Robbie runs em' and I'm not in St. Louis. Most of the fast guys will be in Austin with their nitro's that saturday; might be a good time to get some clean runs in and try to get my lap times down a bit................On the run time thing, I think it has alot to do with my set-up. I'm well over a pound heavier than a nitro with the RC Product designs integrated tray and the very thirsty 1515/1y. I'm gonna try dialing my throttle hipot back about 5% and use a lower torque setting on the Quark next time I come up and see if that helps. The real solution is probably a 1512 for the buggy but right now, I got what I got. Also, you may find yourself using a bit more mah in an actual race than practicing, especially trying to chase those guys(Chad, El, Will) around the track.

JeffEmbracedDC 02.01.2008 03:27 AM

Aye, Chapito - You ready for some action this week end? I'm pretty sure I'll be making it out. I'll probably leave the SBV2 at home since this will be the maiden race for the 8ight. I posted some updated photos on http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9838

Later, man.

-Jeff

Chapito 02.01.2008 01:56 PM

I am! As a matter of fact, I just came from the track. Filled in a couple of problem areas, added dirt on the aproach to the wooden obstacle, and re-faced the Triple. It's still rougher than a .......well, lets just say it's rough. Plenty dry to race though, and we should be able to get a hoe/loader or bobcat on it next week.

JeffEmbracedDC 02.01.2008 04:04 PM

Awesome. Can't wait.

JeffEmbracedDC 02.04.2008 11:01 PM

Okay so here's some clips of last saturdays races.. The blue 8ight with the white wing is Chapitos brushless 8ight.

http://rc.jeffjassky.com/videos/feb-2-08/

The video will require quicktime. If you don't have quicktime you can download it here http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

The audio mixing is really really rough.. I'll be uploading a fixed version in a day or so.

-Jeff

aidz 02.15.2008 06:40 AM

Hey mate nice conversion have a very similar one on my eight what is that battery tray you are using?

Thanks

Chapito 02.15.2008 11:15 AM

Integrated splash gaurd/battery tray from http://www.rcproductdesigns.com/
It really makes for a clean conversion. However, the downside is the extra wieght. Between the tray and the 1515 I'm well over a pound heavier than most of my nitro competition.


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