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david lamontagn 01.02.2008 01:03 PM

Just recieve my Hyperion 0610i
 
Impatiant to open the box (any factory seal on it:oh:), i find a piece of paper how say:
==USER MANUAL ADVISORY==

Thank you for purchasing this Hyperion EOS Charger. We hope that it will exceed your performance expectations and give years of good servic for you.

We are sorry that we were unable to include a printed manual with this first production run of the new EOS0610i-NET, due to production time constraints.
But Hyperion has createa comprehensive Online User Support Center...........................as manual and guides will be updated ragularly.

Please visit this link online for full information:
[url]http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/eos.com

Thank you again for your suppost!!

The Hyperion team.

:neutral::surprised:

I'am the only one to have this surprise??

It's the first time i bought a charger without any manual.

But Hyperion seam to have a great Online support tough:eyes:

Arct1k 01.02.2008 01:16 PM

That is a suprise...

http://www.hyperion-eu.com/public/ma...dc)-MAN-EN.pdf

I doubt it is any different from this and only 7 pages to print....

jhautz 01.02.2008 01:23 PM

The photo copier must have been on the fritz that day. :lol:

Duster_360 01.02.2008 03:04 PM

The manual listed for the 610i is somewhat different - all button "mapping " is in another document.

Mine had the same note as yours David.

The 1st 610i I received was not fully assembled - the rhs plastic endcap or piece was not on the charger when I opened the box. The screws were not in with it either.

I sent it back and had to wait almost another 2 weeks before the replacement showed up. All e RC said they had never seen one like that, partially assembled. My luck....

david lamontagn 01.02.2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 137940)
The photo copier must have been on the fritz that day. :lol:


Or the boss and a secretary was sit on it for......:angel:

johnrobholmes 01.02.2008 06:10 PM

They didn't get the manuals printed up in time. Still don't come with manuals in the box, so maybe they have figured out that online instructions are cheaper.

The 0610i is a killer charger, although a lot more cumbersome to scroll and navigate through as compared to 5i and 0606i versions.

david lamontagn 01.02.2008 10:03 PM

Just try this charger,,Woww! it's very userfriendly:yipi:

lincpimp 01.02.2008 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david lamontagn (Post 138085)
Woww! it's very userfriendly:yipi:


Much like the secretary on the copier?

crazynic 01.02.2008 10:38 PM

I got one not to long ago and thought it was odd there was no manual...

But i just saved the two PDF files from there site to my laptop and view them on screen when i need too....

I find it very intuitive to use it is an awesome charger!!

MTBikerTim 01.03.2008 12:20 AM

Not this secretary I hope. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCM2DC2k8Cw

Patrick 01.03.2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 138117)

:rofl: good one.
It could be this secretary as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tBsm...eature=related

I would much rather have a manual with the charger instead of having to look on the computer. I don't have a pc in the garage where my charger is, and I don't have a laptop to take to the track.

david lamontagn 01.03.2008 02:30 AM

Do you have a printer with your PC:lol:

Patrick 01.03.2008 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david lamontagn (Post 138142)
Do you have a printer with your PC:lol:

Not one that's working. Plus a printed one's not the same as having the proper manual :wink:

rootar 01.03.2008 07:11 AM

i ordered my 606i (only charges up to 6 amps) from CBP.com the day they were released i got it and also got that paper, i would think maybe by now they would have manuals in there, but you never know yours could ahve been sitting on the shelf ever since these came out. Once you get the hang of running through the screens you really began to like it even more.

david lamontagn 01.19.2008 02:24 PM

I've try my hyperion 0610i today for the first time.
Could you tell me if it's normal, but during charging, somes times the curent fall to "zero" for somes seconds, and then return to 5 Amps.
This did it lot of time during charging process.
Have you ever check it during you charge a batterie on your Hyperion 0610i???

johnrobholmes 01.19.2008 06:29 PM

I have watched mine do that. I think it is a test to see how the battery voltage holds up, and part of the CV charge cycle that hyperion has.

david lamontagn 01.19.2008 06:47 PM

OK John, as i can understand, your's do that too???
Excuse me, because i'am french and i've little difficulty with english:oops:

I've e-mail Hyperion today and tell her this problem (maybe it's not a problem at all) and wait for reply.

On the Hyperion web site, they said to send email at this address:
info at hyperion-europe dot com.:oh:

I don't know what they want to mean, but i suppose is:
info@hyperion-europe.com ???????????

johnrobholmes 01.19.2008 07:14 PM

That email looks right.

Yes, my charger does that too.


And you are not french, you are canadian! :D

othello 01.19.2008 07:28 PM

This is no malfunction of your charger. On the contrary. While supplying current to your battery the voltage rises. So to get a more precise voltage reading the charger stops charging for a few seconds to read the batterys "true" voltage. No worries ... this is normal. My Hyperion 1210i does that too.

david lamontagn 01.19.2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by othello (Post 142358)
This is no malfunction of your charger. On the contrary. While supplying current to your battery the voltage rises. So to get a more precise voltage reading the charger stops charging for a few seconds to read the batterys "true" voltage. No worries ... that is normal. My Hyperion 1210i does that too.

Oufffffffffffffff!!!!!!!!!! A big thank, realy BIG THANK YOU

Now i'll can charge my li-po pack with peace of mind:yes:

I realy like this forum, we ask a question, and we have an immediate precise response.

Thank you RcMonster forum:party:

david lamontagn 01.19.2008 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 142354)
That email looks right.

Yes, my charger does that too.


And you are not french, you are canadian! :D


yes!! you're right, i'am Canadian, but first, i'am QUEBECERS
:party:

Duster_360 01.19.2008 10:30 PM

Just like I thought, it was a matter of understanding what the charger was doing.

david lamontagn 01.19.2008 11:23 PM

OK right, i've charge a Venom 3600mAh Ni-Mh pack today, and charge it at 4Amps.
I've calculate that it was suppose to take 54 minuted to charge, BUT, the Hyperion 0610i drop the charge current to "0" at every minutes, during 5 secondes.
So if it was suppose to take 54 minutes, and drop the current for 5 sec every 60 secondes, so it will take 54 minutes X 5 secondes = 270 / 60 = 4.5 minutes more time to charge, so it will take 58.5 minutes.

And you know what??? The pack take exactly 58.5 minutes to charge and take exactly 3600 mAh.

Hyperion have program their charger to drop the charge current to "0" at every 60 secondes. Why??????????? I realy don't know, but it did it.

The only down side of this feature is that take lt=ittle more time to charge a pack.

BL_RV0 01.20.2008 01:06 AM

odd. my 1210i came with a manual, and the piece of paper saying it came with no manual. :neutral:

tom255 01.21.2008 02:56 AM

Hyperion have program their charger to drop the charge current to "0" at every 60 secondes. Why???????????
Becouse its checking a voltage. Actualy my Great Planes Electrifly Triton made same.

david lamontagn 01.21.2008 11:42 AM

OK thank you, so this confirm that my charger is OK!!

johnrobholmes 01.21.2008 01:24 PM

I just read the 0610I takes up to 28v input! That would make finding a suitable power supply much much easier.

BrianG 01.21.2008 04:48 PM

Hmm, Hyperion must have changed the algorithm. My EOS7i does that 0v every minute thing only when charging NiMH in "auto" mode. Since the charger has no idea what capacity battery connected, it looks at how much the voltage falls when the charge current is removed. If the voltage falls just a little, it increases the charge current. If the voltage falls a lot, it reduces it. Larger capacity batteries will have less voltage change from charge to no-charge. It still uses delta peak for termination though.

But, when charging lipos or NiMH in a set mode, the charge current doesn't change unless I tell it to...

david lamontagn 01.22.2008 03:14 PM

I've try every mode in NiMh and li-po, and always drop to "0"amps every minutes.
I've e-mail at MaxAmps and tell me that's normal, the charger is factory set to drop the current to "0" every minutes.

BrianG 01.22.2008 04:23 PM

Must be a way for the charger to ensure the user doesn't select a charge rate that is unhealthy or dangerous for the cells being charged...

rchippie 01.26.2008 07:38 PM

I just got my 610i charge & have a ?. before i use it. There are two banana jacks thqat i would mormally plug the balancer into, but this charger has the balancer built in. So can i solder a deans plug onto the two wires that come with the charger & plug them into the sockets to charge the battery ?.

lincpimp 01.26.2008 07:56 PM

If the charger has a balancer built in it should have some sort of balance harness that goes between the charger and the battery's balance tap.

You can solder a deans connector to charge the battery but it will not balance that way.

rchippie 01.26.2008 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 144058)
If the charger has a balancer built in it should have some sort of balance harness that goes between the charger and the battery's balance tap.

You can solder a deans connector to charge the battery but it will not balance that way.


James it does have the jack for the balance harness. I just want to know what the banana jacks are for.

jnev 01.26.2008 08:06 PM

If I understand you correctly, I would think that the banana jacks are for connecting the charger to a power supply. There should also be some kind of harness that goes between the battery and charger like linc said....

rchippie 01.26.2008 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnev (Post 144060)
If I understand you correctly, I would think that the banana jacks are for connecting the charger to a power supply. There should also be some kind of harness that goes between the battery and charger like linc said....


There is a cord with 4mm plugs for the power supply out the left side. Then there are 2 banana jacks on top by the jack for the balancing plate.

I just found the online manual for the 610 charger.

http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/eos/EOS0610iNET-MAN-EN.pdf

lincpimp 01.26.2008 08:50 PM

Those are the otputs for charging a nimh battery, or 1s lipo.

johnrobholmes 01.26.2008 08:54 PM

The 4mm banana plugs are for connecting to the battery main power. You have to connect that when you balance as well. You do not have to have the balancing jack plugged in to charge, but you must have the charging jack connected for balancing.

rchippie 01.26.2008 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 144074)
Those are the otputs for charging a nimh battery, or 1s lipo.

James i found out that plug is the main charge plug & must be used in conjunction with the balance adapter plate for your pack to balance charge.

I thought i heard this charger will let you see the individual cell voltage but i cant find that function.

I found the function i needed. The induvidual voltages are as follows after everything setteled down a few minutes. Is this okay ?.

4.19
4.20
4.20
4.21

Patrick 01.26.2008 10:30 PM

You wouldn't be able to safely put a lot of amps through just the balancing harness, so you need those 4mm plugs for a decent charge rate, just like most charge through balancers do.

johnrobholmes 01.27.2008 12:02 AM

That is pretty balanced there, looks great.


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