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lutach 01.04.2008 01:31 AM

Holy Smokes...New Controllers from Schulze!!!WOW
 
I just saw this in the boat forum and WOWOWOWOWOWOW:party:.

- future-40.300K / future-40.300WK
Speed controller for brushless motors for big models
10-40 Ni-cells or 3-14 Li-cells
Availability: probably February 2008

- future-18.200F
Speed controller for brushless motors for the FAI WCH-2008
6-18 Ni-cells oder 2-10 Li-cells (I gues they mean 6 Li-cells)
Availability: probably December 2007 / January 2008

- future-32.120F
Speed controller for brushless motors for the FAI WCH-2008
6-32 Ni-cells or 2-10 Li-cells
Availability: probably December 2007 / January 2008

Man I wanted to make my controller with 2 powerboard together for 400A, but Schulze beat me to it LOL.

t-maxxracer32 01.04.2008 01:50 AM

what does this mean?

FAI WCH-2008

wont those things be extremeley expensive?

lutach 01.04.2008 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-maxxracer32 (Post 138389)
what does this mean?

FAI WCH-2008

wont those things be extremeley expensive?

I think the FAI is for the planes, but man the 40.300 will be a killer controller. Just to think you can have over 15KW of power and yes this beast will likely cost a lot.

BP-Revo 01.04.2008 02:25 AM

lol...holy smokes...and schultz....

Ahh good stuff...

Aragon 01.04.2008 09:20 AM

40.300... time for a 1:1 car project. :p

Serum 01.04.2008 12:05 PM

Got to hand you the topic title.. Excellent choice. I am curious wheter they include a navigation system to get from one side of the controller to the other.. (since they've got the tendency to build them as large as a continent it would be a welcome free-bee)

lutach 01.04.2008 12:21 PM

I can't wait to see the price of the 40.300K. I remember when Icare-RC had the 40.160 for $649 and now they have a $799 price on them and Finedesign shows the 40.160 for $635. Knowing how pricey the 40.160 is, I'm assuming the 40.300 will be double that maybe a bit more.

BlackedOutREVO 01.04.2008 04:06 PM

Schulze controllers always blow up dont they? Isnt it serum who has a burned schulze gallery or something?

lutach 01.04.2008 04:17 PM

I still haven't blown one of mine, but they do for some tend to go up in flames. The big 40.160 on the other hand don't really burn. I only saw one that burned, but it was in a boat.

Serum 01.04.2008 05:40 PM

Yeah, the larger ones are pretty tough. but their size is/stays ridiculous.. Perhaps their new ones have a smaller footprint.

lutach 01.04.2008 05:47 PM

A smaller footprint would be nice. I'm also waiting to hear from BK as I was told they were making some new controllers as well. They also told me they would be more powerful then the Schulze.

lutach 01.04.2008 05:53 PM

Look at what I found:

http://www.bk-electronics.com/copper...613&fullsize=1

ssspconcepts 01.04.2008 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 138386)
I just saw this in the boat forum and WOWOWOWOWOWOW:party:.

- future-40.300K / future-40.300WK
Speed controller for brushless motors for big models
10-40 Ni-cells or 3-14 Li-cells
Availability: probably February 2008

- future-18.200F
Speed controller for brushless motors for the FAI WCH-2008
6-18 Ni-cells oder 2-10 Li-cells (I gues they mean 6 Li-cells)
Availability: probably December 2007 / January 2008

- future-32.120F
Speed controller for brushless motors for the FAI WCH-2008
6-32 Ni-cells or 2-10 Li-cells
Availability: probably December 2007 / January 2008

Man I wanted to make my controller with 2 powerboard together for 400A, but Schulze beat me to it LOL.


How about a link to the ESC...I couldn't find it on Schulze's website.

lutach 01.04.2008 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ssspconcepts (Post 138484)
How about a link to the ESC...I couldn't find it on Schulze's website.

I haven't seen a photo of the controller yet, but here is the link:

http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/index_uk.htm

lutach 01.04.2008 06:02 PM

:party:Another one from BK and it seems to be for cars:party:.

http://www.bk-electronics.com/copper...366&fullsize=1

lutach 01.04.2008 06:04 PM

One more:

http://www.bk-electronics.com/copper...379&fullsize=1

othello 01.04.2008 07:09 PM

The pictures you found on BKs picture gallery seem to be depicting their new ESC Cool 250/40. The first pic is the boat version with water cooling, and the other ones are showing the car version. Specs as stated 14s lipos and 250A cont (500A burst). Release date seems to be february 2008.

This ESC was tested in 1:5 cars (13,4Kg).
Videos can be found here and here.

Seems to be a serious competition for those new big schultzes.

aqwut 01.04.2008 09:26 PM

I would definately buy that big controller.... I loved my 40.160WKs... that 40.300 would even be better.. and BK looks nice too ..... can't wait to spend some money later this summer

lutach 01.04.2008 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by othello (Post 138502)
The pictures you found on BKs picture gallery seem to be depicting their new ESC Cool 250/40. The first pic is the boat version with water cooling, and the other ones are showing the car version. Specs as stated 14s lipos and 250A cont (500A burst). Release date seems to be february 2008.

This ESC was tested in 1:5 cars (13,4Kg).
Videos can be found here and here.

Seems to be a serious competition for those new big schultzes.

Awesome find there othelo.

lutach 01.04.2008 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aqwut (Post 138528)
I would definately buy that big controller.... I loved my 40.160WKs... that 40.300 would even be better.. and BK looks nice too ..... can't wait to spend some money later this summer

If my controllers don't come out, I'll buy a couple of the big guns from Germany.

pb4ugo 01.04.2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 138488)

How recent is that pic? Lehner won't have anything to do with BK anymore.

lutach 01.04.2008 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo (Post 138572)
How recent is that pic? Lehner won't have anything to do with BK anymore.

I think the site show a 2005 or 2006 date. That must have been a prototype. I hope they can have some soon. Because I already sent my drawings to Mike and I'm waiting to see what he thinks. Got to make my true electric 1/8th scale truggy and buggy come to life.

What's_nitro? 01.04.2008 11:21 PM

Hmm. Looking at that new BK controller, I wonder if you could run two motors with it - since it has 3 pairs of power connectors on the output? If not, I think they would have just used one set of 6mm connectors.

lutach 01.04.2008 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 138581)
Hmm. Looking at that new BK controller, I wonder if you could run two motors with it - since it has 3 pairs of power connectors on the output? If not, I think they would have just used one set of 6mm connectors.

They double the wires to handle the current. Look at the end of the wires you will see a single bullet connector.

What's_nitro? 01.04.2008 11:37 PM

Yes, I did see that. I was thinking that two sets of connectors were unnecessary unless there was a specific reason. Like controlling two motors, for example. Of course the two motors would need to be within the maximum specs of the controller.

What's_nitro? 01.04.2008 11:40 PM

:surprised: I notice two sets of battery leads as well. You know what would be really cool? If that little box had "bridgeable" controllers in it. Like an audio amplifier. Muahahha.

lutach 01.05.2008 11:05 AM

My Schulze and SPIN200 have 2 red and 2 black wire as well and it is for the same reason to handle more AMPs. If they went to 8GA, the wire is stiff and I think they want the fexible wires.

Getter Robo 01.05.2008 11:23 AM

I think this new 40.300 ESC will cost as much as a Baja 5b SS :gasp:

david lamontagn 01.05.2008 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Getter Robo (Post 138692)
I think this new 40.300 ESC will cost as much as a Baja 5b SS :gasp:

And you know what?? I prefered spend $800.00+ on a Baja SS than on a controller who can smoke at the very first time you plug it:whistle:

BL_RV0 01.05.2008 11:33 AM

a controller thats a box? wow...... retro or what? :lol:

Getter Robo 01.05.2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david lamontagn (Post 138694)
And you know what?? I prefered spend $800.00+ on a Baja SS than on a controller who can smoke at the very first time you plug it:whistle:

Me too. Just imagine the costs if you want to do a bl conversion of a baja ss with this esc... I'd rather go with oemrc sentilion anyways

lutach 01.05.2008 12:19 PM

I have to admit the price for the German controllers are beyond Pluto. That is why I wanted to have my own HV controllers done to try and bring the prices down. I'm not sure why those controllers are so expensive. If you do the math on how much the components cost, people start thinking twice. I understand if an engineer that developed a great software charges a lot, but if they already have a good software and pretty much paid for all the developing cost, they should bring the price down. I for example don't sell electronic components for everyone, because I wouldn't make much profit. Now when I sell to Felxtronics in Brasil, I'm happy with the profit that I got from selling high quantities. Schulze is really missing out on profits from high quantity. I like the Schulze, BK, Kontronik and Actronic, but they could make more money if they priced their products the right way and sell higher quantities.


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