2600 Kv rated motors? which one?
 

okay so i was looking at the Ammo 36-56-2600 for my race spec revo. tekno used a neu 1512/2d motor(2600Kv) and the mamba max controler, which is the same kv rating and esc that i was going to use. i was wondering if there was a nemesis or feigao XL motor with a 2600Kv rating(or similar 2500-2700). it will be run on 3s lipo and set up to race. cant afford the neu, or any motor that cost more than $120 so if someone could point to a feigao or similar motor that be great. thanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/Feigao-540-10L-B...QQcmdZViewItem

Here a Feigao 10L on ebay. 2458KV

You could also use a Feigao 7xl at 2382kv and gear it a tooth or 2 higher. The larger motor should allow the taller gearing no problem. Thats probably your best bet IMO.
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...WAND_XL&cat=20

thats showin the 7XL is only 2145Kv. thats too low to run on 3s lipo isnt it?

Those specs have been wrong for a while now. The actual KV is what jhautz said: 2382

ok thats cool then. and i could gear that probly 18/36 instead of the 18/38 i planned and get about 35mph speeds like i would with the 2600 ammo? is there another motor out other than the neu that would get about 2600 Kv?

if you can spare the dough ($210) check the 6xl motor out on this page.
http://finedesignrc.com/motorshacker.asp
if you can bore out your 5mm pinion to 6mm check this motor out.
https://www.unitedhobbies.com/UNITED...idProduct=4938
much more power than the feigao.

finedesingrc has a Nemisis 6xl also. Its a feaigo with a blue can.

Its not wrong...Its the loaded KV vs. the unloaded KV...

unloaded is what almost every manufacturer goes by except Lehner/BK so its the one that gives you the best comarison from brand to brand.

okay well like i said before i cant put much mroe than $150 into the motor. so a feigao 7xl or 6xl both on 18/36 gearing will give me about 35mph speeds and wheelies all over the place? thats what im looking for. enough torque to rip the wheels up, and fast enough to be a track truck on 3s lipo. and no i cant bore out the tekno electriclutch thingy. i dont want to try atleast. any other inexpensive but crazy powered motors out there?

I would chose the Lehner XXL. There around $175 I think.

but will that fit on the tekno kit? i think the tekno kit cant take anythign more than like 78mm long or something...

good luck finding one though.

will the feigao 6xl pull the wheels up easily on 3s with a 18/36 gearing?

I doubt anything will on 3s

If you want power go with 4s or more

You should try searching for a Aveox. Steve Neu used to work for Aveox and his motors are simular in design, but a little better. I had Aveox since they came out and love all of them. I have bought used Aveox motors from $35-100.

ive seen aveox somewhere. but they seem to be too high price for me. and my whole purpose of finding a high kv motor is so i dont have to use 4s to get good speeds. i cant afford it. plus i want too keep batteries that i can use in all of my cars, including rustler, df-03, and a tc. 4s cant do that... and it would cost too much for me to run twin 2s packs. so you really dont think that it could pull the wheels up? even if i kept first gear? that bums me out

http://finedesignrc.com/motorsaveox.asp

what about that first aveox? the one for $125. should i just wait a month or so untill i can afford to get twin 2s packs as well. go on and get the feigao 7XL and a mamba max esc, run it on 3s for a while and then get 4s when i can afford it? im still suprized that a 7XL on 3s couldnt pull the wheels up though... my VXL system on 3s can do a standing back flip in an e-maxx. and the maxx ahs aluminum arms bulkheads and towers. so it weighs only a little less than my revo

I run a 7XL, 3S, and MM in my Revo and it works great. I can't be positive on if it will do a wheelie, because I have a center diff, but it should do one no problem...It takes off damn fast, so I would say wheelies aren't gonna be a problem.

See if Mike can get you the Mega ACn22-30-1:
http://www.megamotorsusa.com/Brushle...30-1.htm?id=26

so with a center diff on 7xl, 3s, and mamba it launches hard? harder than nitro would? because if it can launch as hard or harder than a OS.18 or the traxxas 3.3 than it will easily lift the wheels up. my 3.3 lifts up, so if it can launch that hard, than it will easily flip. do you have any videos or pictures of it?

No videos or anything. Somewhere around here theres a thread with some low res pictures, before I got the RC-M motor mount, etc. I ran it for the first time Saturday and it ran pretty good, went for a run yesterday, and before I could adjust the tranny to get it to shift right, it stripped something in one of the diffs. Its in pieces right now. So far I've eliminated the tranny as a problem, but other than that I don't know...

how did it run on saturday? does it launch as hard or harder than nitro on 3s? and my diffs need to be rebuilt anyways so this will be a good time to change them out. if it launches anything like nitro id be happy with it. id say check the internal diff gears and maybe even your driveshafts.

Yea, I'd say it runs better than nitro, definitely. Only thing is the top speed. It was doing around 25 in 1st gear yesterday, so I would say it should do about 35-37ish in 2nd, although it only hit 2nd a couple times saturday. I only ran it for about 5 minutes saturday though, since the battery was almost dead. I never even ran it on a full battery, so I dunno. Anywho, I'll get back to you in the next day or two after I get everything fix up on it and running top notch with some fresh batteries.

well im not looking to go 50. i bash in tight areas and race on a track that you dont even get up to full speed anyways. you probly never go over 30 on my track, its not that long. so 35mph and crazy hard launches sounds just about perfect to me

Try the Mega. It has tons of torque and draws less AMPs. Power from torque is really nice.

but its 3500 kv. thats basically my VXL motor with a larger shaft. and yeh my vxl is insane in an e-maxx, but thats a maxx, not exactly the same as a revo. i just dont see it pushing a revo. atleast not without some crazy gearing. the thing is its not a torque motor. i would think the 7xl at 2345Kv will have more torque than the mega at 3500Kv

If you're assuming that the lower KV motor always has more torque, you'd be wrong. Without looking over all the specs, i'd assume that the mega has more torque. They're pretty friggin massive. Of course, I havn't looked at them both that closely so I can't say, but it's worth further investigation.

One thing I can darn well gaurantee, is that mega is NOTHING like your vxl, 5mm shaft or not.

J.

I will second that, the vxl is a feigao clone, and about the same as a 10s feigao. it works fine in a 2wd 10th truck, and a pair look to be good in the new emaxx. I will say that the mega motors are nicely made.

The Mega has 6 poles hance the torque. They are extremely efficient compared to the Feigao. Plus the Mega will handle 4S lipos and use 1/2 the AMPs than the 7XL. Even the SV27 brushless motor will have more torque then the 7XL. I used it on my MBX5T and I know this bacause I also used the 7XL in it.

okay well what should i get? im ordering this weekend. feigao, mega, or now the SV27 motor? and like ive said before, im only going to be using 3s lipo for right now. so a motor that will eb crazy strong and decent speeds (35-40) on 3s yet can handle a 4s once i get a set of batteries. the problem i see with the SV27 motor is it is only 1800 Kv. that wont spin very fast on a 3s lipo. but about the mega. so if it has as much torque as the 7xl, and higher kv. it will be as quick and faster? and can handle 4s power?

Mega.

you seem set on the mega. okay between the mega and the 7xl. both will be run on 3s for now. and looking at the site, the mega that you pointed out can only handle 3s lipo, not 4s. and im still not positive that i can get one

It handles 4S, if you look at that link it says 12 cells which equals to 14.4 and 4S is 14.8 volts. If you go with the 7XL make sure you get the best lipos you can find, because they will consume a lot of AMPs. The Mega will need less AMPs and will have more torque.

If you do want to stay with a motor that has a Kv of around 2800, the ACn22-30-1E will be the one for you. It has a Kv of 2850 and here is the specs: http://www.megamotorusa.com/Brushless/ACn22-30-1E.htm

well if the other one will give almost the same torque and mroe speed than thats what ill do. im calling up my LHS tomorrow and see if he can get me the motor and if he can i will order one this weekend. what kind of torque would you expect with the mega? the first one you sent that is 3500Kv. will it launch like the feigao? or even harder?

Stock up on drive train parts and I don't know how good the slipper system on the Revos are, but I'm sure you will toast it LOL. I went through a lot of slipper pegs and spur gear with my tough as steel Stampede which has the Avoex RC7 motor. Not as strong as the Mega, but stronger than most of the 2 pole motors I have.

yes my stempede eats through gears constantly even with the VXL. and i have enough parts to rebuild my tranny. but how much power is it gonna be? do you really think it will launch that hard? standing backflips?

I ran my Mega 20-30-3 (1270Kv) once with 4S lipos and it was enough to grind my pinion. I had a steel spur gear in my MBX5T. Before the pinion went, it was either doing wheelies or on it's lid. The motor is good, but you have to match it with a good ESC. I was running my MGM 16016-3s.

so lots of torque. and plenty of rpms to get it movin FAST. well i cant go all out on a ESC too. but a mamba max is a good ESC and thats what i planned on using. something i know will work great. any other suggestion for a good ESC in the $140 price range? something garunteed to work awsome