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jhautz 01.08.2008 08:58 PM

FLM Savage - LST Shock Mount Kit
 
Anyone using the FLM kit for mounting the LST shocks to a Savage? Is it any good? Ive seen some other LST shock mount kits with hokey looking plates mounted to the tower and lower arms and it looks flimsy to me. Does this FLM kit work well?

Will it work on a Savage X? I read in the store that it requires the FLM towers to work, I'm OK with that, but does it also require the FLM lower arms?

WOuld love to hear from someone who has tried it, especially if you tried it on a Savage X.

MTBikerTim 01.08.2008 09:47 PM

I run the innovative RC mounting kit and it ain't hokey. Not perfect but I prefer having plastic on the extremities of my truck to take the hits better. I have never seen anyone running the flm mounts but it may work without the arms. The FLM shock towers would have mounting positions that I think would make up for the shorter length of the LST shocks. I think I have seen trucks with the shocks mounted in the same way to flm towers but with custom mounts a few times.

jhautz 01.09.2008 01:51 AM

I agree I want to run the stock plastic arms too. Thats why Im wondering how the FLM LST shock conversion works. I really dont want to have a bunch of adapter plates all over the place to put the lst shocks on so in theory it looks like a great setup.

I just cant see how the lst shocks attach at the bottom without hitting the upper arm or the dog bones. They are alot wider than the stock savage shocks.

Serum 01.09.2008 02:48 AM

It depends jhautz; i am not familiar with the FLM setup, but i assume you need to use the FLM lower arms; since they are fair heavy, i would prefer the innovative RC setup; they also produce their own shocks, and they seen to be serious business. Only verdict is that you need to use the 'old' lower arms; they don't work with the X arms.

lincpimp 01.09.2008 10:58 AM

Any chance of a link? Just want to see how they do the conversion.

jhautz 01.09.2008 11:04 AM

http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...m30000&cat=109

This is all I got. Not a whole lot of info.... Which is why I'm askin. Id like to see some mounted pictures showing both top and bottom of the shock using the stock arms.


So nobody out there has actually tried this yet. :whistle:




EDIT: DANG! 1999 posts! Better make the next one good.:lol:

Fast Lane 01.09.2008 05:13 PM

I suppose I should update the kit to work with stock arms.

They look like they should work fine with the stock arms with some washers to space them out to 1mm, that is to clear the FLM upper arm. Giving the stock upper is narrower than FLM, there should be no problem.

They work perfect on the FLM tower and arm setup.

The FLM arm measures 43mm to the stock 41mm at the point were the shock will mount.

The only thing necessary for it to work with the stock arms is a metal shock bushing, to take up the space were the old shock used to sit.

Our tower is necessary unless you wanted to drill some holes.

MTBikerTim 01.09.2008 06:26 PM

I would probably run if I had the FLM towers, the FLM LST shock mounts and a set of these on the A arms http://www.innovative-rc.com/product...products_id=44. Those lower mounts do require the old style savage A arms though.

Just noticed this too http://www.innovative-rc.com/product...roducts_id=113

jhautz 01.09.2008 07:20 PM

Thanks for the info Jamie. Just the kind of input I was looking for. I already ordered the towers and LST conversion kit from Mike so I'm just making sure I will be able to install this. I really want to stick with the plastic arms. Its going on my savage X along with the tranny forward converion you just released. (Looking forward to this.)

I just want to clarify to make sure I understand...

So it was designed to work with the FLM Towers and Arms, but you think it will work with the stock arms. I would need to mount this on the outside of the arm rather than in the middle section where the stock shocks mount and put a metal shock bushing in the space where the shock would normally mount?

Is that correct? I'm having kind of a hrad time picturing exactly how this would mount to the arm.

MTBikerTim 01.09.2008 07:33 PM

This would be what you are trying to picture jhautz. It looks like you will need offset wheels as well though if you don't already have them. http://www.innovative-rc.com/product...roducts_id=113

jhautz 01.09.2008 07:37 PM

Offset wheel are no problem. I'm already runnig them.

Did you mean to post a picture with that last message?

MTBikerTim 01.09.2008 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 139907)
Offset wheel are no problem. I'm already runnig them.

Did you mean to post a picture with that last message?

I'm a twit I added the link.

Cajun 01.09.2008 07:52 PM

I'm really interested in this thread, I'm about 3/4s of the way through a X SS build and the shocks and the bellcrank system seem to be the weakest spots on the truck so far. I'm not really wild about the way the IRC system looks on the truck and the FLM set up seems cleaner. Are there any pics of it on an FLM truck?

jhautz 01.09.2008 08:01 PM

http://www.fastlanemachine.com/PublicPortal/

Scroll down the page a little, the Low Budget Brushless conversion pictures have the LST shock conversion on it. You can see the top mounting, but not the bottom mounting.
I agree. I dont like the look of all of the extra plates and such. The FLM solution looks simpler and cleaner to me.


Tim,

Thanks for the link. That is exactly the picture I was looking for. I have aluminum spacers just like that sitting in a parts bin right now. I should be able to make something like that up with no issue. Sweet.:yipi:

jhautz 01.09.2008 08:03 PM

One more thing I just thought of... Will the FLM towers work on a savage X? The X towers have that extra litlle hole thingy hanging off the bottom . Will I miss this?

BlackedOutREVO 01.09.2008 08:27 PM

Dangit jhautz, I started looking around, and now I think I need a BL savvy

Im in ebay looking for the front and rear ends (found em) And a complete tranny (also found =] ) then all I need is the chassis kit, and a few lil parts and I have a roller for less then 300 bucks! Haha

jhautz 01.09.2008 08:30 PM

:na:Good. I think evryone should have more trucks than they really need. And don't blame me for your lack of self control. :lol:

BlackedOutREVO 01.09.2008 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 139922)
:na:Good. I think evryone should have more trucks than they really need. And don't blame me for your lack of self control. :lol:


LOL, I havent even finished my .5 yet, and I need a new truck, but a new truck sounds alot more fun then a motor and esc:lol:

It just looks WAY to cool, I will need some LST shocks (bling, and there nice shocks, batt, esc, motor)

Im thinking HV? Plane speedo or something like linc does, and then a 2200 mah 8s pack? With a 13XL?

I duno, I know I want it, thats enough:yes::na::mdr:

jhautz 01.09.2008 09:07 PM

I'm not getting that crazy with mine. I have been running mine with as close to a stock setup as I could get for a brushless conversion. Its only got a BK12020 and a 1940/7 on 5s a123 and 5s lipo. I'm sticking with the power source for this update, Just getting the new tranny forward chassis so I can get the batteries off of the side of the TVP. I hated that setup, but couldnt come up with a better solution. The FLM conversion is genius IMO. I may have to reconfigure my a 123 packs to fit in the new space between the chassis plates. Maybe just one big 5s2p brick.

And the LST shock conversion is just to get a little better handeling and durability. The long stock shocks are a crappy setup IMO. Other than that, the truck has been all but bulletproof running bone stock drivetrain. I might upgrade to a metal spur as well now that Mike has the super hard pinions. I do tend to strip the spurs quite often.


Here is what mine looks likew now. They are old pictures from when it was new, but it still looks exactly the same except dirtier. :tongue: I'll post some pics when I finsh this latest upgrade as well.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1910.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1904.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1907.jpg

EDIT: BTW... I did the Savage as an experiment to see if it would hold up to my normal bashing without any of the major/expensive upgrades like my Emaxx took. On my emaxx , by the time I upgraded evrything to the point that it would stand up to daily bashing, it cost me so much I was afraif to bash it. It was kinda pointless. Lets just say the emaxx has been parted out and sold off for a long time now and I never looked back and the Savage is still running with a completely stock drivetrain and chassis without any major problems except a couple bent shock shafts. (hence the lst shock upgrade). Love the Savage as a daily basher!!! couldnt recomend it more.

BlackedOutREVO 01.09.2008 09:43 PM

Yeah, I just cant dec if I want to finish my .5, or start the LST.....

I really want the savvy, but I could be bashing my .5, vrs not driving anything for probably 4 or so months....

MTBikerTim 01.10.2008 12:00 AM

That is a really nice truck jhautz. I have to agree that the savage is stock very tough. I have basically only broken a few parts and others have just worn out from old age. Most of the parts I have just changed because I could on my savage. The biggest problems with my savage were maintenance was a pain, diffs broke and the half tank lean problem. The first 2 issues have been fixed with the savage X with alloy diff cups and easy access cases and there is no half tank lean on an electric.

Jhautz I can't wait to see your truck finished with the forward tranny chassis and to hear how it goes. I love the look of your brushless conversion. It's very clean and simple. You will definitely have yours running before mine as I don't have any electronics for mine yet.

BlackedOutREVO 01.10.2008 12:04 AM

I also cant wait for pics (and vid?)

I decided to finish my .5 first, because I already ordered my NEU from Mike....

MTBikerTim 01.10.2008 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 139987)
I also cant wait for pics (and vid?)

I decided to finish my .5 first, because I already ordered my NEU from Mike....

I'm the opposite of you BOR. I have a half finished savage and want to start a .5 (or chopper).

BlackedOutREVO 01.10.2008 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTBikerTim (Post 139990)
I'm the opposite of you BOR. I have a half finished savage and want to start a .5 (or chopper).

lol, wanta trade for a week?:na::na:

.5's are really fun, just love starting projects, and buying stuff for them, ano parts ETC....

Fast Lane 01.10.2008 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 139899)
Thanks for the info Jamie. Just the kind of input I was looking for. I already ordered the towers and LST conversion kit from Mike so I'm just making sure I will be able to install this. I really want to stick with the plastic arms. Its going on my savage X along with the tranny forward converion you just released. (Looking forward to this.)

I just want to clarify to make sure I understand...

So it was designed to work with the FLM Towers and Arms, but you think it will work with the stock arms. I would need to mount this on the outside of the arm rather than in the middle section where the stock shocks mount and put a metal shock bushing in the space where the shock would normally mount?

Is that correct? I'm having kind of a hrad time picturing exactly how this would mount to the arm.

Yes we did design this around our set up. However I did check out the X arm and you can mount the shock to the outside of the arm and include the shock spacer in the stock point to fill up the gap

On all new LST kits will include all necessary spacers to work w/o any problems on stock X arms.

Fast Lane 01.10.2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 139915)
One more thing I just thought of... Will the FLM towers work on a savage X? The X towers have that extra litlle hole thingy hanging off the bottom . Will I miss this?

All current FLM Savage towers work with the X.
A few months back we did update them and machined a place for the skid brace to mount.

bluonyx 01.20.2008 06:32 PM

OK guys I'm going to order a set of Maxx FLM Towers and the LST Shock conversions. I have an extra set of LST shocks and have been wondering about this for a while. Way to go FLM!

I'll update with pics once I get them on how to mount them to your Maxx.

bluonyx 01.20.2008 06:35 PM

Sorry, I just noticed this is a FLM Savage thread. I'll post it in the Maxx thread when it's done.


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