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Dagger Thrasher 02.09.2008 06:33 PM

Well, I never...
 
...ever would have expected this. The new HPI E-Firestorm "Flux" is using a re-named SideWinder!

http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/10553/

Doesn't look like a Castle motor, but still...very surprising. Seems like a good move though...:yes:

suicideneil 02.09.2008 06:47 PM

Hmm, hard to see anything much from the photos, but it looks like a cheap rustler knock-off with a black sidewinder type esc; photos arent too big/clear though...

Dagger Thrasher 02.09.2008 06:57 PM

Sorry, I just realised that link doesn't have great images. Here:

http://www.rckingdom.co.uk/smf/index.php?page=179

The Firestorm series trucks are very decent machines, not Rusty-knockoffs.:wink: It even says "Castle Link(tm) compatible for the ultimate in race tuning." I kinda wish they'd kept the Castle branding though, instead of making it their own.:neutral:

suicideneil 02.09.2008 07:06 PM

Ah yes, definately a sidewinder... in black. I think its hard to make a rwd drive buggy which doesnt look like a rusty to most people, lol. I wonder what the price will be- if its cheaper than the VXL rusty, it is sure to be a winner.

Arct1k 02.09.2008 08:12 PM

I think you can read castle on the wire :)

suicideneil 02.10.2008 10:14 AM

Well I'll be jiggered, I can too.... strange world we live in.

_paralyzed_ 02.11.2008 01:39 AM

looks like a castle motor to me, especially turning 5700kv, good for castle! that'll stomp the vxl's!

t-maxxracer32 02.11.2008 01:49 AM

does look like a rusty.

but like you said...

how can it not?

Serum 02.11.2008 02:34 AM

that's great news! castle is in it BIG. my guess is that this was their reason for bringing the sidewinder to the market in the first place.

just keep in mind that the VXL uses a larger rotor. (diameter)

lincpimp 02.11.2008 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 148368)
that's great news! castle is in it BIG. my guess is that this was their reason for bringing the sidewinder to the market in the first place.

just keep in mind that the VXL uses a larger rotor. (diameter)


Do you think that the motor is a novak knock off, or the castle 5700 with a different endbell and solder tabs? If it is a castle motor it is not much different from the vxl in dimension or internals, just higher kv.

Arct1k 02.11.2008 07:10 AM

different end bell is because I bet it is rebuildable and it has HPI marked in the end.

This two things is what make it ROAR compliant? Smart move by HPI and castle... competition for Novak!

bensf 02.11.2008 11:36 AM

On the ESC specs:

Castle Link(tm) compatible for the ultimate in race tuning.

Serum 02.11.2008 02:24 PM

@llinc; the rotors of the VXL and the castle motors differ quite a bit; The VXL has a larger rotor.

Arct1k 02.11.2008 02:42 PM

Spoke to castle re pizza and this subject came up - This is NOT their motor apparently...

VXL motor is made by feigao... so more like an s can would be my guess

BrianG 02.11.2008 04:17 PM

I'm impressed. This is the first time I've ever seen detailed current specs on an ESC:

Quote:

Originally Posted by http://www.rckingdom.co.uk/smf/index.php?page=179
*25C temperature, 5mph air flow through heat sink minimum. Burst current: < 2 seconds duration, 1% Duty cycle.

So, the sidewinder is rated 70A continuous, but 380A in 2 second bursts as long as there is a 200 second delay (3.33 minute) until the next burst.


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