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e-rev project 05.09.2008 02:44 AM

Hyperion 0610i Charger power supply
 
i was just wondering if this would work as a power supply for a Hyperion 0610i Charger to run at full capacity?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25-AM...QQcmdZViewItem

thanks

Duster_360 05.09.2008 06:48 AM

That will be plenty to run it at full capacity. I use a 25a Pro-Peak PS to run mine and its plenty - in normal charging work, the PS will run both the Hyperion and my Ice and let me charge a pr of batts for my Emaxx.

Sammus 05.09.2008 07:23 AM

My hyperion manual has a warning in it saying not to use a battery charger as a power supply...

Arct1k 05.09.2008 09:05 AM

Just buy this fpr $20 and follow brian's mod - It took me 15 mins to convert mine...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817152029

lincpimp 05.09.2008 09:09 AM

I use an ofna 18amp power supply. It can run 2 of the 5i hyperion chargers and the Ice at the same time. It was 90 bucks, but I can highly recommend it. Plus it is adjustable, unlike my mrc power suppply that came with the 989. That supply puts out over 15v and will not work anything other than the 989.

Duster_360 05.09.2008 09:21 AM

Wow, I didn't see that was a charger! Don't run that, the DC chargers I've used warn you not to use a battery charger for a power supply.

Glad sammus was paying attention. The Pro-peak power supply was about $60.

BrianG 05.09.2008 09:48 AM

Yeah, those car battery chargers are not clean DC. They do away with the capacitor filtering so you have pulsed DC. Also, they are unregulated. Since they have to be able to output ~14v at the rated current, the voltage output at lower currents can be quite a bit higher.

You probably could use one provided you add capacitor filtration and a linear regulator. Building a high current regulator can take some work though to get currents up to ~20A. Just easier IMO to get a PS that is already filtered and regulated for the price...

e-rev project 05.09.2008 10:26 AM

thanks for all the responses i remember reading that a guy used a motorcycle battery charger for his power supply

now i know not to
thanks

azjc 05.09.2008 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 170939)
I use an ofna 18amp power supply. It can run 2 of the 5i hyperion chargers and the Ice at the same time. It was 90 bucks, but I can highly recommend it. Plus it is adjustable, unlike my mrc power suppply that came with the 989. That supply puts out over 15v and will not work anything other than the 989.


sounds like the same PS I have

theJoker 05.09.2008 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-rev project (Post 170972)
thanks for all the responses i remember reading that a guy used a motorcycle battery charger for his power supply

now i know not to
thanks

Good call on not using a battery charger

I think the cheapest route is to use a pc power supply, if you do not mind a bit of wiring it is the cheapest ...... It will take a bit of looking to find the high current 12 volt lead. But maybe the documnets are better now than when I setup mine


This looks like it may work

But I would be temped to head to frys and pick up somthing I can return ...

theJoker 05.09.2008 11:14 AM

ok a little more

here is a link with the specs

18 amps

BrianG 05.09.2008 11:19 AM

17/18A is a little on the low side. You want about 25% more current capability than you will be running for two reasons: 1) heats less 2) the output voltage won't drop as much and will stay within the 11-15v range of most chargers.

The 0610 is a 250w charger IIRC. To use it to full capacity, it would require:

Code:

Voltage  Min A    Safe A
 11.0V    28.4A    35.5A 
 11.5V    27.2A    34.0A 
 12.0V    26.0A    32.6A 
 12.5V    25.0A    31.3A 
 13.0V    24.0A    30.0A 
 13.5V    23.1A    28.9A 
 14.0V    22.3A    27.9A 
 14.5V    21.6A    26.9A 
 15.0V    20.8A    26.0A

The "Min A" column includes an 80% charger efficiency factor.

Jbreddawg 05.09.2008 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-rev project (Post 170870)
i was just wondering if this would work as a power supply for a Hyperion 0610i Charger to run at full capacity?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/25-AM...QQcmdZViewItem

thanks

I have an older astron 12 amp power supply I will give you if your interested, just pay for the shipping. "it's heavy so probably around 15-20 bucks " I would send you back any money if shipping is cheaper.
Works perfect , just dont need it anymore since I have a 100 amp supply now. Jerry

tc3_racer_001 05.09.2008 07:20 PM

ok, this is something ive been thinking about too... ive got 3 modded pc supplies (after my 12A one blew up 4 times, running 8A...GRRR free replacements wore out after that :D

anyways, ive got an antec earthwatts 500A one, very good psu, and holds the voltage 100x better than my other ones. (with the same setup) anyway, its got 2 12v rails, rated for 19A and 17A. (one for CPU, and the other for everyting else i assume) ive pulled it apart and when a heavy load (20A of charging power, much over the rated i know, for a short (20 seconds) i noticed that it dropped down to 11.98 (understandable) BUT, the other unloaded rail also dropped to 12.24 or similar... which means they are somehow connected (use only 1 transformer or something, i have no idea)

but the question i want to ask is, what would happen if i joined the 2 rails together into 1 output, and had a ground. then i would have a 30A supply. which would be great for the 250w charger. my other option is to buy 2 of the other chargers in that range (forgot the name) and use 1 on each rail...


any suggestions/concerns (didnt seem like a great idea until i had some opinons, not keen to blow up a $90 supply...
thanks, and sorry if its off topic!

Sammus 05.09.2008 08:07 PM

I run a 450W psu but its only rated to 16A on the 12v rail... and it only outputs like 11.8 anway. certainly not enough for my 360W duo's max capacity :) I was charging 2x 3s packs at 4A the other day and the input voltage dropped down to 10, still worked, but is a little dodgy.

The duo accepts up to 28V input though so if yours can accept a higher voltage too it might be cheaper to get a higher voltage power supply, then it doesnt need to handle such extreme current


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