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TDC57 05.18.2008 02:42 AM

What is the BEST money can buy??
 
Good morning gentlemen,
I'm doing some research for my next project and I was hoping to have you input!.. Please note that I'm and electrical kind of guy, hate the smell and cleanup of Nitro!. So what ever I get it will be converted to E, I’ll use / already have a Nue 1515 1.5y and the MMM esc, with either 4s or preferably 6s. I would like to keep the total cost under $2,000 if possible?? I want to buy the best I can. But I'm still not sure the buggy is right for me?? Hence this thread..

Question #1:
What is the biggest advantage a buggy has over a E-Revo?
What is the biggest disadvantage it has over a E-Revo?

Question #2:
How do they hold up in regards to general bashing? Or are they a strictly track truck?

Question #3:
Which truck / buggy would you buy if you where going to start this project? Here is what I'm currently considering:
• Kyosho Lazer ZX-5 or Infemo ST-RR http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/cars/in...part_num=30077
• Exray 808 http://www.teamxray.com/teamxray/m_i...9bdc109f5296c3
• Hotbodies D4 http://www.hotbodiesonline.com/kit.p...=61410&lang=en
• Associated RC8 or B44 http://www.teamassociated.com/ae/rc8/rc8_home.htm
• LRP shark 18 http://www.lrp-electronic.de/e/lis
• Ofna 8.5 pro http://www.ofna.com/hyper85pro.php
• JConcepts BJ4 http://www.jconcepts.net/store/index...1d912c9cfa0a4c

Question #4:
What am I missing?? what would you recommend??

Again I don’t really know anything about this kind of trucks, so I'm reaching out the experts for assistance.. Any and all advice is deeply appreciated.

Thanks so much for your time gentlemen..

Have a great one

Shaun.

P.S.
If you have one of these bad boys that your thinking of selling, I'm defiantly interested, please feel free to PM me..

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.18.2008 03:44 AM

Q1)
- Can Race
- Cant go everywhere
Q2)
Buggy or E-REVO? E-REVO isn't out yet so no one knows and buggies are nearly indestrcutable
Q3)
Some are electric 1/10 scale and some are 1/8 scale nitro. 808 would be the best one there.
Q4)
1 thing is that the 1/8 Worlds are in September and there is going to be a new Kyosho - Mugen - HB and other buggies coming soon

JERRY2KONE 05.18.2008 03:56 AM

Wow!!!
 
QUOTE: Good morning gentlemen,
I'm doing some research for my next project and I was hoping to have you input!.. Please note that I'm and electrical kind of guy, hate the smell and cleanup of Nitro!. So what ever I get it will be converted to E, I’ll use / already have a Nue 1515 1.5y and the MMM esc, with either 4s or preferably 6s. I would like to keep the total cost under $2,0000 if possible?? I want to buy the best I can. But I'm still not sure the buggy is right for me?? Hence this thread..

$20000??? WOW that will be some project. Just kidding, I know it was a fat finger typo. How about the Baja 5B. It is a killer buggy and it would be quite fun to convert it. Or if you really want to have some fun do the Go-Kart conversion. Plus you get to drive it for real.

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.18.2008 04:07 AM

$20 000, i thought it said $2000. Lucky you

Did you think about a Truggy? Since you are comparing a E-REVO with a Buggy

TDC57 05.18.2008 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 174079)
Q1)
- Can Race
- Cant go everywhere
Q2)
Buggy or E-REVO? E-REVO isn't out yet so no one knows and buggies are nearly indestrcutable
Q3)
Some are electric 1/10 scale and some are 1/8 scale nitro. 808 would be the best one there.
Q4)
1 thing is that the 1/8 Worlds are in September and there is going to be a new Kyosho - Mugen - HB and other buggies coming soon

Thanks for the response Drift_buggy..
I do like the 808.. and there is an existing thread about the conversion already :party: (HHHmmmm)??

Have a great one!.. and thanks for the input..

TDC57 05.18.2008 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 174080)
QUOTE: Good morning gentlemen,
I'm doing some research for my next project and I was hoping to have you input!.. Please note that I'm and electrical kind of guy, hate the smell and cleanup of Nitro!. So what ever I get it will be converted to E, I’ll use / already have a Nue 1515 1.5y and the MMM esc, with either 4s or preferably 6s. I would like to keep the total cost under $2,0000 if possible?? I want to buy the best I can. But I'm still not sure the buggy is right for me?? Hence this thread..

$20000??? WOW that will be some project. Just kidding, I know it was a fat finger typo. How about the Baja 5B. It is a killer buggy and it would be quite fun to convert it. Or if you really want to have some fun do the Go-Kart conversion. Plus you get to drive it for real.

Sorry about that, I blame the Screwdriver's I'm drinking (Bad booze!) :lol:

The Baja 5b, Nope I just don’t like the Baja look (just not my thing).. I'm looking for something that come close or will surpass my GorillaMaxx builds. I was kind of thinking that this (Buggy) thing may be it??

Thanks for the input Jerry.. Have a great relaxing time with the wife and kids gone..

Shaun.

TDC57 05.18.2008 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 174082)

Did you think about a Truggy? Since you are comparing a E-REVO with a Buggy

Hay Drift_BUGGY..
Isn’t a Truggy the same thing as a Buggy but with a different body?? Sorry for the lame question.. But I really don’t know the difference between the two??..

Thank you so much for your time and have a great day

Shaun.

tc3_racer_001 05.18.2008 06:49 AM

truggies are a mix of buggy and MT. kinda like a more race bred revo? wider and lower but a chassis similar to a buggy? is that about right?

Serum 05.18.2008 08:06 AM

tough call; you are talking about some nice products here.

It's said before, but a buggy is way tougher than an MT.(1/8th) it uses about the same driveline, only with smaller wheels and shorter arms. Buggies are NICE.

I would either go for the
-Xray 808
-ofna hyper 8.5 pro (comes with nice diffs!), as what UE sells as 8 spider diffs
-rc8 (light)
-mugen mbx5r (aged. bus still going very strong)
-losi 8ight

Arct1k 05.18.2008 08:27 AM

How about the new hyper 9...

Mister-T 05.18.2008 08:41 AM

From what i ve seen at local Track,

Xray is best all round, extreme performance, does not wear out easily, Impact resistant.
Then come Hobao/Hyper 7 and 8, more classical design, but incredibly strong and parts are available everywhere for low price.
Mugen and kyosho does have there own driving style (they why there is still many kyosho user despite there somewhat old design). kyosho seem to break easier than other brands...

pb4ugo 05.18.2008 08:53 AM

Any of the top caliber cars will do you nicely. You won't be able to use all the tuning capabilities until you're a national caliber racer. For me, it comes down to what my LHS carries for parts support. You're kind of lucky down there since you have Nitrohouse (owned by OFNA), Gyro Hobbies, Ultimate Hobbies, et al. Most parts will be available, but I still don't remember much Xray stuff around.

DRIFT_BUGGY 05.18.2008 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TDC57 (Post 174087)
Hay Drift_BUGGY..
Isn’t a Truggy the same thing as a Buggy but with a different body?? Sorry for the lame question.. But I really don’t know the difference between the two??..

Thank you so much for your time and have a great day

Shaun.


From Wiki
A truggy is a combination of a 1/8 scale racing buggy and a stadium truck. Truggies are generally four-wheel-drive with a center differential, no transmission, a monster truck or stadium truck body and perhaps monster truck tires. The idea is not a new one since stadium trucks originally sprung from buggies. A truggy, on the other hand, takes advantage of the state-of-the-art nature of purpose-built stadium trucks. The result is the semi-scale appearance and stability of a stadium truck with the agility of a buggy. Most simple truggies are made from buggies by merely changing the wheels, tires and body mounts, but there are also truggy kits and RTRs of various levels of cost and competency.

http://www.tony1034.com/8T.jpg

lutach 05.19.2008 12:29 AM

Look into a Mr. C Carbon Fiber conversion. I have yet to see a better conversion.

TDC57 05.19.2008 02:15 AM

You GUYS ROCK!!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001 (Post 174091)
truggies are a mix of buggy and MT. kinda like a more race bred revo? wider and lower but a chassis similar to a buggy? is that about right?

OOoooo cool, thanks for the input. I’ve got enough trucks now and I was looking for something different Maybe this buggy thing is it!?.

Thanks Tc-3 for your time..

have a great one..


Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
tough call; you are talking about some nice products here.

It's said before, but a buggy is way tougher than an MT.(1/8th) it uses about the same driveline, only with smaller wheels and shorter arms. Buggies are NICE.

I would either go for the
-Xray 808
-ofna hyper 8.5 pro (comes with nice diffs!), as what UE sells as 8 spider diffs
-rc8 (light)
-mugen mbx5r (aged. bus still going very strong)
-losi 8ight

Thanks for replaying Serum, I was hoping to hear from you on this subject.
It's starting to sound like a buggy is the way to go.. and the Xray appears to the favorite so far.. Thanks again for the clarification on the differences between the two types..

Have a great one and thanks again for your time.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k
How about the new hyper 9...

Hay Arct1K..
I haven’t heard of hyper 9??? hmmm I’ll do a goggle search.. Thanks for the suggestions Sir..

Have a great one and thanks again for your time..



Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister-T
From what i ve seen at local Track,

Xray is best all round, extreme performance, does not wear out easily, Impact resistant.
Then come Hobao/Hyper 7 and 8, more classical design, but incredibly strong and parts are available everywhere for low price.
Mugen and kyosho does have there own driving style (they why there is still many kyosho user despite there somewhat old design). kyosho seem to break easier than other brands...

Good evening Mister-T (like the name sounds cool)
The Xray is coming in at the top of the list, I like the fact it has your guys respect (which isn’t an easy thing to do) Thanks for sooo much for the other comments on your thoughts regarding the other trucks, it a huge HELP!!

Thanks so much for your time and your input..

Have a great one!.. and thanks again..



Quote:

Originally Posted by pb4ugo
Any of the top caliber cars will do you nicely. You won't be able to use all the tuning capabilities until you're a national caliber racer. For me, it comes down to what my LHS carries for parts support. You're kind of lucky down there since you have Nitrohouse (owned by OFNA), Gyro Hobbies, Ultimate Hobbies, et al. Most parts will be available, but I still don't remember much Xray stuff around.

Great comments pd4ugo, No I’m not even close to a caliber racer, just a basher at the moment looking to improve my skills and have some fun when the new local track opens up in few weeks. Durability, longevity, handling and reliability is pretty much the key at this point.. I'm extremely fortunate to have tons of shops around me / within driving distances, plus the internet is fedx is only a week away :yipi:.

Thanks again for your comments and your advise..

Have a great one..




Quote:

Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY
From Wiki
A truggy is a combination of a 1/8 scale racing buggy and a stadium truck. Truggies are generally four-wheel-drive with a center differential, no transmission, a monster truck or stadium truck body and perhaps monster truck tires. The idea is not a new one since stadium trucks originally sprung from buggies. A truggy, on the other hand, takes advantage of the state-of-the-art nature of purpose-built stadium trucks. The result is the semi-scale appearance and stability of a stadium truck with the agility of a buggy. Most simple truggies are made from buggies by merely changing the wheels, tires and body mounts, but there are also truggy kits and RTRs of various levels of cost and competency.

Excellent information Drift_BUGGY!! as always.. (you the man!)..
Thanks so much for the total clarification between the two.. I'm defiantly going Buggy!! Hoooray one item closed.. Now I just need to pick which one?? so many choices..

Thanks again for your time Sir and have a great day / week..



Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach
Look into a Mr. C Carbon Fiber conversion. I have yet to see a better conversion.

Thanks lutach... I will do that, I do like the FC conversions and there is great article in the Extreme RC-Cars May issue on how to make them stronger with CA glue.. do you have a link for Mr. C??

Thanks again for your time and your comment..

Have a great evening..







To all my fellow Buggyens out there who happen to take the time out of your busy lives to help me (THANK YOU!).. thank you for your time and sharing your knowledge with the less fortunate (ME).. I love this hobby mainly because I’m always learning new things and reading about your experiences is a tremendous help.. Please never stop sharing what you gentlemen have..

YOU GUYS ROCK!!! :yipi:

Thanks again for everything and have a great week..

Shaun.


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