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Fkyx 05.26.2008 03:38 AM

Breaking driveshafts in an awkward location... ideas?
 
Just broke my second driveshaft in this exact same fashion. Not a result of any sort of big impact, as far as I could see. The wheel just popped off while the truck was going in a straight line. They're nearly brand new shafts, each seeing less than 45 minutes of runtime.

These pictures should do most of the rest of the talking:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6909/p1010386lk4.jpg
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3305/p1010389bi5.jpg

Something tells me this may be related:
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6034/p1010387vt0.jpg

Any ideas?

azjc 05.26.2008 10:49 AM

seems to be binding prehaps at the wheel area, it seems to be pretty strong though that would be stronger than the torque of the driveline

Fkyx 05.26.2008 01:45 PM

Yeah. I'm able to turn the wheel with very little effort with my hands. I wonder if it isn't so strong, but the binding happens often enough to produce a sort of recurring strain.

jayjay283 05.26.2008 02:09 PM

what kind of knuckles are those ?

Fkyx 05.26.2008 02:13 PM

They're the normal white RPM knuckles dyed purple.

jayjay283 05.26.2008 02:35 PM

I dunno man, I use the stock sliders on a vtwin for months and never broke 1, I put a Neu 1515/1y on 6s doing donuts and they didnt break. Maybe your hubs have play ? I used the ofna ones but they didnt work well with HPI or proline wheels, only the axials, so i witched to the new traxxas revo ones LINK no play at all. If those are 23mm you got me, maybe just time for cvds LINK thats my 2 cents lol

suicideneil 05.26.2008 02:37 PM

Someone just had a similar issue on beatyourtruck...

Only thing I could suggest is to try the traxxas cvds, but then they have an issue with the pin snapping in the diff output cups sometimes... meh...

azjc 05.26.2008 02:45 PM

the stock drivelines should not do this...you have an issue somewhere in the wheel area and if you get the CVDs and dont fix the problem I believe the problem will come back it will just take longer

Fkyx 05.26.2008 04:22 PM

Well I finally got around to a deeper investigation of the breaks. I found this on the bearing on the inside of the knuckle:
http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/6238/p1010407aq3.jpg

The bearing is seized. It looks like there was either some rubbing or something got in there to cause some rubbing. I took the bearing on the outside of the knuckle out of the wheel, and found it's pretty much seized as well. So I've replaced both and put a new end of the driveshaft. We'll see how it works out.

azjc 05.26.2008 04:27 PM

its amazing what a seized bearing will do, I inspect my all my bearing on a regular basis and replace as needed they are not very expensive...anybody remember before they had bearings in RC cars and they had bushings?

Fkyx 05.26.2008 04:42 PM

Yeah. I like to do regular checkups, too. It didn't seem like I had run the truck enough to have any problems, though. Oh well... lesson learned. Hah.

What's_nitro? 05.26.2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azjc (Post 176807)
its amazing what a seized bearing will do, I inspect my all my bearing on a regular basis and replace as needed they are not very expensive...anybody remember before they had bearings in RC cars and they had bushings?

8 years ago when I got my Rustler it had bushings. That lasted all of 2 weeks. Now-a-days it has a full compliment of Acer ceramic bearings. :mdr:

Sort of off topic but if you think ceramic bearings are expensive, just know that they are worth every penny. They make regular bearings look like bushings!

Fkyx 05.26.2008 06:52 PM

Ceramic bearings are a hopeful near-future upgrade. I just can't afford them at this point in time.

mothman 05.26.2008 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 176829)
8 years ago when I got my Rustler it had bushings. That lasted all of 2 weeks. Now-a-days it has a full compliment of Acer ceramic bearings. :mdr:

Sort of off topic but if you think ceramic bearings are expensive, just know that they are worth every penny. They make regular bearings look like bushings!

hey, how long you have been using the cer ceramics bearing? Are they really good.. in terms of durability? I'm really interested to get some from acer but not sure if they are good..

jayjay283 05.26.2008 08:34 PM

I use STRC knuckles, they have the larger 6x15 bearing like the RPM but no flex and are very light link
and 2 of these bearings for the inside link , the TRX blue seal bearings fell apart after a month, havent had a problem since


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