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lincpimp 08.26.2008 09:12 AM

Tire Taping ?
 
So I just put a set of badlands on my erevo. Lots of traction, but they do balloon quite a bit. I currently have maximizer beadlock wheels and the proline molded foams.

Shough I wrap tape on the tire, or the foam? I have read that some turn the tire inside out and wrap it a few times with tape, or should I leave it right side out and put the tape in that way?

Also what tape should I use?

Thanks guys.. I need to go back to a 17t pinion, as the 19t is pulling a few more amps with these tires compared to my mtr bowties...

brushlessboy16 08.26.2008 09:21 AM

i used duct tape on my badlands and it completely STOPPED the ballooning, yes wrap the tire

one turn of duct tape with about 1/2 inch overlap

Arct1k 08.26.2008 09:22 AM

I turn inside out and use the extreme packaging tape - it is glass reinforced... seems to do the job well

http://www.staples.com/office/suppli...&ci_sku=489132

http://www.staples.com/sbd/img/cat/std/s0081250_std.jpg

lutach 08.26.2008 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 205583)
I turn inside out and use the extreme packaging tape - it is glass reinforced... seems to do the job well

http://www.staples.com/office/suppli...&ci_sku=489132

http://www.staples.com/sbd/img/cat/std/s0081250_std.jpg

I have to agree with Arct1k. They do the job very well indeed.

lincpimp 08.26.2008 10:01 AM

Thanks guys, I will try to scare up some of the tape arkt1c linked to....

Funny to see the tires grow, and they are way off balance. What does everyone use to balance the tires? I have heard of modeling clay being used cause it is sticky, but is there anything better? I have a prop balancer so I can do it properly...

Arct1k 08.26.2008 10:03 AM

You could try this
http://www.holabirdsports.com/cgi-bi...product=060975
http://www.golfsmith.com/ps/products...c3f37d7a5dc441

lincpimp 08.26.2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 205592)

Thanks, hopefully I can find something like that locally...

azjc 08.26.2008 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 205581)
So I just put a set of badlands on my erevo. Lots of traction, but they do balloon quite a bit. I currently have maximizer beadlock wheels and the proline molded foams.

Shough I wrap tape on the tire, or the foam? I have read that some turn the tire inside out and wrap it a few times with tape, or should I leave it right side out and put the tape in that way?

Also what tape should I use?

Thanks guys.. I need to go back to a 17t pinion, as the 19t is pulling a few more amps with these tires compared to my mtr bowties...

I have the same tire and wheel combo and I know what you mean by the ballooning I have been thinking about doing the tape mod and the glass enriched tape looks good and I have thought about applying some sort of glue or other hardening agent to the tire to keep it from ballooning

GorillaMaxx360 08.26.2008 11:13 AM

linc you pulled the thoughts right out of my head.

Last night i got my maxx setup and drove it for the fist time in ages with my MMM and i too am running maximizers on badlands because i liked the look and they are all terran. after driving a few questions came to my head

1.) what do i do to stop the balloning
2.) why are they so unballenced
3.) why did i rip the tires right out of the beadlock

so to prove that i am not joking heres a pic of my tires laying in the floor ready for taping to be done.

[IMG]<a href="http://s116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/GorillaMaxx360/?action=view&current=P1010001-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o6/GorillaMaxx360/P1010001-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>[/IMG]

thanks for the thread as it will be very useful to me

kevin23 08.26.2008 11:16 AM

the tape does wonders,I have used duct tape and the reinforced packing tape.
Both get the job done

lincpimp 08.26.2008 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360 (Post 205619)
linc you pulled the thoughts right out of my head.

Last night i got my maxx setup and drove it for the fist time in ages with my MMM and i too am running maximizers on badlands because i liked the look and they are all terran. after driving a few questions came to my head

1.) what do i do to stop the balloning
2.) why are they so unballenced
3.) why did i rip the tires right out of the beadlock

thanks for the thread as it will be very useful to me

Yep, I have the same wheels and tires! They do look good and seems to grip well. I will lower the top speed a bit and try my hand at balancing...

I will post back here when I get all of the materials and get some in-progress pics!

rchippie 08.26.2008 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 205581)
So I just put a set of badlands on my erevo. Lots of traction, but they do balloon quite a bit. I currently have maximizer beadlock wheels and the proline molded foams.

Shough I wrap tape on the tire, or the foam? I have read that some turn the tire inside out and wrap it a few times with tape, or should I leave it right side out and put the tape in that way?

Also what tape should I use?

Thanks guys.. I need to go back to a 17t pinion, as the 19t is pulling a few more amps with these tires compared to my mtr bowties...


James the PRO's vent ther tire with a leather punch instead of taping . Your tires are going to ballon some what Know matter what you do . There is a reason the PRO's dont tape there tires .

bruce750i 08.26.2008 12:42 PM

I would suspect the Pros would use the correct tires for different scenario also. Tape adds weight in the worst place, in the rotating mass.(A bad thing for the pros) Is it not centrifugal force multiplying the tire weight that balloons tires? (not trapped air) They would look like over sized donuts not pizza cutters. What is the weight of air? About .075 Lbs a cubic foot depending on the density. How many cubic feet of air is in a badland tire? less than one. IMO. Around 36-39MPH is when mine start swelling.

Arct1k 08.26.2008 12:47 PM

Just thought you might be interested to read this as Centripetal and Centrifugal forces are often mixed up...

http://mechanical-physics.suite101.c...vs_centrifugal

lincpimp 08.26.2008 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 205626)
James the PRO's vent ther tire with a leather punch instead of taping . Your tires are going to ballon some what no matter what you do . There is a reason the PRO's dont tape there tires .

And that reason is????? I always figured it was a combo of the soft sidewall and lack of sidewall support that caused ballooning. That and the weight of the tread pulling outwards as the tire is spun faster. My beadlocks are not vented, so the air inside is pretty much fixed. I always thought that racers punched holes in the tires to allow water out that got in thru the wheel vent holes?


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