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kulangflow 08.30.2008 04:15 AM

Eagle Tree of MMMv2 death
 
I happened to be recording an Eagle Tree log when my MMMv2 gave up the ghost on its second day of bashing. I don't know if it will help anybody, but here it is just in case it could be of some use to someone.

E-Revo - MMMv2 - 9XL - 24/65 - 4s 8k lipo. I know my set-up is mild enough because my stock MM/CCBEC works like a champ in there, as did my MMMv1 before I sold it to a friend. The v1 is still running strong.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...nsterDeath.png

TexasSP 08.30.2008 10:11 AM

Nothing looks odd. Seems to average 40-50 amps. Nice to see a real record, good job on that part, but sorry for the loss.

JerryF504 08.30.2008 10:20 AM

I had an Eagle Tree on mine when it died as well but everything looked good so I never posted it.

kulangflow 08.30.2008 11:40 AM

The actual average was 5.89A. If you take out the amp values less than 5A, then the average is 22.21A. If you're really bored and do that in increments of 10, then you get this (although you're not sure if it is of any value or has any meaning): :lol:

The samples were taken 10x per second, so count indicates how many samples were in that range from which the average was taken. This shows how rare it is that the higher current was pulled. Of course, the real average shows that too, but I'm very bored.

0A+ avg = 5.89A; count = 7244
5A+ avg = 22.21A; count = 1749
10A+ avg = 28.13A; count = 1257
20A+ avg = 40.52A; count = 662
30A+ avg = 51.96A; count = 388
40A+ avg = 64.81A; count = 225
50A+ avg = 73.91A; count = 156
60A+ avg = 84.99A; count = 99
70A+ avg = 92.28A; count = 73
80A+ avg = 101.87A; count = 48
90A+ avg = 110.15A; count = 32
100A+ avg = 119.10A; count = 21
110A+ avg = 127.41A; count = 14
120A+ avg = 129.58A; count = 12
130A+ avg = 133.33A; count = 7
140A+ avg = 142.34A; count = 1

bdebde 08.30.2008 06:06 PM

Seems most are still dieing a bec death, need the eagletree servo logging to see what is going on there. Maybe the big digital servos getting in a bind is killing the bec?

kulangflow 08.30.2008 06:37 PM

It could be the twin servos in the E-Revos that are doing the damage also. The MMMv1 I had that is still running strong was always used with one "weakish" servo. The MMMv2 died with the twin E-Revo servos. Just a thought anyway.

When I get my replacement, I'm only going to use one of the servos and see how long the MMM lasts.

JerryF504 08.30.2008 07:54 PM

My 1st v2 is still running strong on an E-Maxx with 2 200oz digital servos and my 2nd v2 was running 1 very weak analog servo when it died so I doubt it's related to the load.

mxracer 08.30.2008 10:34 PM

the weak servo was probably being overloaded and pulling big current , the strong servos especially 2 of them are probably idling away nicely and not pulling too many amps

Quote:

Originally Posted by JerryF504 (Post 207064)
My 1st v2 is still running strong on an E-Maxx with 2 200oz digital servos and my 2nd v2 was running 1 very weak analog servo when it died so I doubt it's related to the load.


tc3_racer_001 08.31.2008 12:57 AM

hmm, but wouldnt it have been utterly stupid of castle to to test this out? like seriously, they deal with huge planes and such, and surely they could do tests to see if the bec would fail with 2 5955tg servos at lock for 10 or so minutes and see if the BECS fail? its starting to look like v1 all over again. poor castle. and poor me whos going to have to pay like $50 just get a working one (STUPID INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING> GRR :)

TexasSP 08.31.2008 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulangflow (Post 207040)
It could be the twin servos in the E-Revos that are doing the damage also.

I had problems with the twin servos in the e-maxx as well. I burnt out 4 in only about 6 runs. They seem to fight each other too much and as come out of alignment from each other. I am sure this puts quite a bit of stress on things. They should just go with one high torque metal gear servo and be done with it.

suicideneil 08.31.2008 01:31 PM

My v1 is still working fine, and I use a pair of HS645Mgs- not the strongest setup in the world, but it does for me, and the esc just ticks along merrily.

kulangflow 08.31.2008 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 207299)
My v1 is still working fine

I should've kept it. :lol:

Both of the v1s I sold are working perfectly and the v2 I kept died. That's just not right! :angel:

MTBikerTim 08.31.2008 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tc3_racer_001 (Post 207177)
hmm, but wouldnt it have been utterly stupid of castle to to test this out? like seriously, they deal with huge planes and such, and surely they could do tests to see if the bec would fail with 2 5955tg servos at lock for 10 or so minutes and see if the BECS fail? its starting to look like v1 all over again. poor castle. and poor me whos going to have to pay like $50 just get a working one (STUPID INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING> GRR :)

It only cost me $16 including shipping materials to send 2 v2s back from Aus. The international shipping isn't that bad.

Sammus 08.31.2008 08:39 PM

If you want to sent it registered/insured it cost a bit more. A few months ago I returned my mamba max registered, including a $50 money order, and the cost for the currency conversion, the stupid fee for the international money order, and the registration, came to near $100. Then I went on b-p-p and bought a brand new one for a hair over $100 delivered... but still, shipping wasnt that much ($26? insured to the full au value). The international money order was annoying though, bad time for conversion, plus they charged like an 8% or 10% commision or something. iirc it was like $68 for a $50USD money order.

suicideneil 09.01.2008 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kulangflow (Post 207343)
I should've kept it. :lol:

Both of the v1s I sold are working perfectly and the v2 I kept died. That's just not right! :angel:

I was thinking the same thing... :na:

Wanna buy a functioning MMM? Only $500....:rules:


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