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Topas 01.29.2009 10:06 AM

MMM Combo 2200 a lot of cogging...
 
Today I received my MMM Combo 2200 and put it in my Losi 8ight-e (4s) (16th pinion)I have a lot of cogging instead of a smooth start ....

I am also using a MMM V3 and a NEU 1515/1/Y in my Emaxx on 5s and it is very smooth.
Are there different MMM V3s available ? The older one beeps 5s times on startup indicating that I am using a 5s lipo setup. The new one in the combo doesn´t...

sleebus.jones 01.29.2009 11:17 AM

If it doesn't beep 5 times, then the auto-lipo setting is probably not set correctly. It might be cogging because the LVC is kicking in. Take a look at it with the castle link and see.

Topas 01.29.2009 12:03 PM

Ok, I turned on auto-lipo ... this was my fault but the cogging still remains... It might be a problem with the very strong magnets inside the motor.

RBMike 01.29.2009 12:25 PM

It should not be cogging, there is a problem somewhere. Make sure all you connection are good with good solder joints on the bullets.

Arct1k 01.29.2009 12:52 PM

There has been one other report of a bad solder joint - worth checking

MetalMan 01.29.2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 256680)
There has been one other report of a bad solder joint - worth checking

I've seen bad solder joints from CC on more than one occasion... Fortunately they weren't on any of my CC items, but a buddy of mine has had a MM 5700 and MMM 2200 combo each with a single bad solder joint that produced extraneous cogging.

sleebus.jones 01.29.2009 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Topas (Post 256671)
It might be a problem with the very strong magnets inside the motor.

Realistically, that's not really a reason for cogging. It's more likely you have a bad connection somewhere.

Topas 01.29.2009 03:12 PM

Solder joints are fine ....

Hardstyle 01.29.2009 05:28 PM

You have newest firmware in it? What lipos are you running, C rate?

Topas 01.29.2009 05:34 PM

I am using Kokam H5 30 C 5000mAh lipos .
Yes I have the newest firmware 1.2

Hardstyle 01.29.2009 05:57 PM

Very hard to say then, Lipos sounds ok. Have you tried different setting for the controller? I would try reset all the setting to default and try then. But that just me, prolly wouldn't help anything.

Here's few thing that could cause cogging: bad solder joint, bad lipos, gearing, binding in drivetrain, (too long wires?), escs settings

BrianG 01.29.2009 05:58 PM

If this is truly cogging, I would think it was a connection or soldering issue. Since you say they are ok, we'll assume they are. And gearing sounds ok, although 5s on a 2200 kv motor geared with a 16T pinion is gonna be fast.

Might seem to be a PITA, but you could take the MMM from your maxx and try it in the 8ight-e. If it still coggs, put the 8eight-e MMM back in and try the Neu 1515/1y from the maxx. Just trying to isolate the problem component.

Sometimes, a glitchy radio can seem like cogging. Try plugging a servo in the throttle port and see how it acts. Obviously, it should turn smoothly. Even if it does, ESCs tend to be more sensitive than servos. And/or try the radio setup from your maxx.

brushlessboy16 01.29.2009 07:34 PM

Try increasing start power on the MMM

emaxxnitro 01.29.2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 256796)
If this is truly cogging, I would think it was a connection or soldering issue. Since you say they are ok, we'll assume they are. And gearing sounds ok, although 5s on a 2200 kv motor geared with a 16T pinion is gonna be fast.

Might seem to be a PITA, but you could take the MMM from your maxx and try it in the 8ight-e. If it still coggs, put the 8eight-e MMM back in and try the Neu 1515/1y from the maxx. Just trying to isolate the problem component.

Sometimes, a glitchy radio can seem like cogging. Try plugging a servo in the throttle port and see how it acts. Obviously, it should turn smoothly. Even if it does, ESCs tend to be more sensitive than servos. And/or try the radio setup from your maxx.

+1 this is a tell tail way to find out. it could be a bad solder joint inside the motor? where the wires meet the windings. http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x.../IMAGE_046.jpg

sleebus.jones 01.30.2009 03:02 AM

Holy out of focus picture batman. I think I can see something there but I'm not sure.


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