RC-Monster Forums

RC-Monster Forums (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/index.php)
-   General Discussion (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=20)
-   -   I got an Oscilloscope! (https://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18556)

What's_nitro? 02.05.2009 10:19 PM

I got an Oscilloscope!
 
:yipi: I've needed one for a loooooooooong time!

It's a Hitachi V-422. I have been bidding on these forever and never managed to win any. I'm too cheap, I guess! :smile: This one looks like it will do everything I need it too! It has 2 inputs and supports up to a 40MHz signal. I have a few pet projects that require some waveform analysis of PFN's. I'm very excited about this! CAN YOU TELL??!?!?! :mdr:

mikey09120 02.05.2009 10:56 PM

oooooo...what does it do?

eovnu87435ds 02.05.2009 11:00 PM

it oscillizes things

What's_nitro? 02.05.2009 11:03 PM

Hahaha! You guys make me :rofl:! You guys know that household AC power is 60Hz, right? If I hook a probe to the outlet I can see the AC waveform. Like in the picture on the eBay auction. In a nutshell, an oscilloscope allows us to view electrical signals in real-time.

azjc 02.05.2009 11:08 PM

I remember my dad having one when I was a kid....( he was an EE with Boeing)

JERRY2KONE 02.05.2009 11:09 PM

And????
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 259103)
Hahaha! You guys make me :rofl:! You guys know that household AC power is 60Hz, right? If I hook a probe to the outlet I can see the AC waveform. Like in the picture on the eBay auction. In a nutshell, an oscilloscope allows us to view electrical signals in real-time.

And then what???:eyes::oh::lol: How much did you pay for this thing? I am curious as I have one in storage doing nothing but collecting dust. I am sure that I will never use it. That was funny "Oscillisizing" stuff. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: How many things do you think you can do with an oscillascope anyway, unless you are some kind of electrical engineer or high paid anylist of some sort. I know that these things are not cheap brand new, but how much can they fetch used? Plus just think of how much R/C gear you can buy with that money anyway???:party:

What's_nitro? 02.05.2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azjc (Post 259105)
I remember my dad having one when I was a kid....( he was an EE with Boeing)

I'd kill for that job.... :lol:

I used them throughout HS in my electronics shop, but I couldn't afford one of my own. Then I discovered ebay! Some years later, here we are! :smile:

FireWire79 02.05.2009 11:13 PM

/sigh

I was looking into an Agilent 54810A Infinium Oscilloscope but at around $5000 I just can't justify it. Not to mention that most of the RC stuff that we work with is DC. I could use a Spectrum Analyzer, but that is really pretty useless as far as RC goes as well. A Power Meter, no good, doesn't do what you think.

Pretty much I need a good multimeter and DC power supply. Most of the other fancy schmancy electronic stuff is not good for what we do at home. I am going to ask how to create a 100amp dummy load at work.

Is this a large enough load to be considered a "burst" as far as ESCs go (ie the MMM/2200 combo). I would like to be able to get my hands on two dummy loads, one that draws a "burst" rating, around 100amps, and one that is a "constant" rating. That way I can use a Multimeter to determine remaining capacity and calculate voltage drops.

Someone needs to standardize the "C" rating. Otherwise I am going to repackage LiPos and say that they have "W" rating instead. And of course "W" is better than "C", maybe I'll go with "A" , oh wait, that's in use, and so is "W", dang.

"L"!! Yes MA batteries have a 4L constant and a 8L burst while the SPCs have a 6L and 13L burst.

I'm just blabbering now, sorry.

What's_nitro? 02.05.2009 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 259106)
And then what???:eyes::oh::lol: How much did you pay for this thing? I am curious as I have one in storage doing nothing but collecting dust. I am sure that I will never use it. That was funny "Oscillisizing" stuff. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: How many things do you think you can do with an oscillascope anyway, unless you are some kind of electrical engineer or high paid anylist of some sort. I know that these things are not cheap brand new, but how much can they fetch used? Plus just think of how much R/C gear you can buy with that money anyway???:party:

I won the auction for $130 and change. Shipping from CA was $24- and these things are HEAVY!!!! :yipi:

You can do A LOT of stuff with one of these. If I was so inclined, I could use it to see (electrically) how changing all the settings on my MMM actually affects how the motor operates! I would need some other components, but it's do-able!

JERRY2KONE 02.05.2009 11:25 PM

Convincing.
 
Reading your words is funny. It sounds as if you are trying to convince yourself that it was worth the $130. If you have no plans for it then what was the point? Just to have one??? (You can do A LOT of stuff with one of these. If I was so inclined, I could use it to see how changing all the settings on my MMM actually affects how the motor operates! I would need some other components, but it's do-able!) Just an observation. Still I know they are costly to own, but if you have nothing to do that will benefit you like reparing R/C gear or making money doing work for someone else, then why bother? I am sure that $130 was a good deal as an oscillascope has a unique purpose that is genuine, but if you cannot make any money with it, then why? I suppose once you have it sitting around the garage for a while you can always relist it on EBay and get your money back.

eovnu87435ds 02.05.2009 11:25 PM

ive seen people get some potentiometers, and play pong with an oscilliscope... so there ya have it. its a heavy $130 pong machine

What's_nitro? 02.05.2009 11:29 PM

FireWire79-

You just need some power resistors (or 200' of solid 10awg copper wire) for your dummy load. 100A is a TON of power though. At 6s it's over 2100 watts if the cells hold 3.5V/cell!! If you were doing momentary testing (<3 seconds on, 5% duty cycle, fan cooled), I guess a power rating of 500W on the resistors would be OK. At 21V, a 0.21 ohm resistor is needed. To make things easier, look for 0.2 ohm - 0.25 ohm. A 0.25 ohm is around 90A current. It isn't difficult to build, but the resistors are going to be EXPENSIVE to say the least.

Edit- Wow! I just did an eBay search and found this! Man this would be PERFECT for that dummy load!!! not a bad starting price either!

What's_nitro? 02.05.2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 259116)
Reading your words is funny. It sounds as if you are trying to convince yourself that it was worth the $130. If you have no plans for it then what was the point?

You make me :rofl: too! Of course I have plans for it. I'm not as spend_happy as some members here *cough* TDC57 *cough*..... :lol:

From my first post: The letters P-F-N. Which stands for pulse-forming network. Which is used in: LASERS, EMP projectors, coil guns, and my favorite- RAILGUNS!!!!!!! :yes::yes:

FireWire79 02.06.2009 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 259118)
FireWire79-

You just need some power resistors (or 200' of solid 10awg copper wire) for your dummy load. 100A is a TON of power though. At 6s it's over 2100 watts if the cells hold 3.5V/cell!! If you were doing momentary testing (<3 seconds on, 5% duty cycle, fan cooled), I guess a power rating of 500W on the resistors would be OK. At 21V, a 0.21 ohm resistor is needed. To make things easier, look for 0.2 ohm - 0.25 ohm. A 0.25 ohm is around 90A current. It isn't difficult to build, but the resistors are going to be EXPENSIVE to say the least.

Edit- Wow! I just did an eBay search and found this! Man this would be PERFECT for that dummy load!!! not a bad starting price either!



Oh my god, I have two of those laying around my shop that are unwanted. I could totally snatch one of them. I am totally willing to run such a large load. Its what I do, as I have signal and function generators laying around at the shop. I just want to find some sort of way to accurately measure the discharge rates of LiPos. I just don't like the "C" system, I just want something more quantifiable.

What's_nitro? 02.06.2009 12:18 AM

Haha! Awesome! You have the carbon pile type? They would be ideal since they're non-inductive.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:56 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.