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fatkidjoey 04.14.2009 07:21 AM

simple question
 
can you run a sensord motor on a non sensord ESC? i was looking at geting a novak 4.5 or 6.5 hv for my erevo , that has a mamba monster max

Arct1k 04.14.2009 08:16 AM

Simple answer: yes

lincpimp 04.14.2009 10:02 AM

Complex answer: why bother with the novak motor? The cc2200 motor is not much more, and can output twice the power... The hv motors are ok for buggies, but lack the torque and power to get a MT moving.

fatkidjoey 04.14.2009 10:41 AM

you can get the novak for about 1/2 the price

lincpimp 04.14.2009 10:48 AM

Then get a medusa. And I have not seen the novak hv motors with 5mm shafts for 70 bucks? But I have seen the cc motors for $130-140... Sometimes less!

Any chance of a link to this great price?

fatkidjoey 04.14.2009 01:43 PM

its 80 bucks

its remanufactured but comes with the same warranty as a new one 120days


http://www.shopatron.com/product/par...21.26355.0.0.0

suicideneil 04.14.2009 02:02 PM

Tempting, but then again, what sort of power and speed are you after, and how uch does your truck weigh; anything over about 9-10lbs and the novak motors arent man enough- trust me on that one :mdr:

fatkidjoey 04.14.2009 02:17 PM

im runing a REAL e-revo , not converted , not looking for anything to fast , just some thing to play around with and race every once a while on a small track

suicideneil 04.14.2009 02:49 PM

Hmm, fair dos. For the price, its not a bad option, and it definately wont be over-powered, just about right for what you say you want.

lincpimp 04.14.2009 02:57 PM

For 80 bucks it is a better deal than a feigao xl motor. Just be careful with your gearing choices. Under 40mph it should be fine, as long as your erevo has stock tires, no big 40 series stuff!

squeeforever 04.14.2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 279235)
For 80 bucks it is a better deal than a feigao xl motor. Just be careful with your gearing choices. Under 40mph it should be fine, as long as your erevo has stock tires, no big 40 series stuff!

I don't know about that...I think a Feigao with a heatsink/clamp is a pretty good motor for the price. Mostly because it has a 540 sized rotor, and the HV has a 380 I believe. I'd think the HV would run hot long before the Feigao.

suicideneil 04.14.2009 11:01 PM

You'd be suprized actually, the hvmaxx 6.5 runs pretty good temps if geared sensibly (35-40mph in a stock weight erevo is ideal). The blasted feigao things always overheated on me regardless of gearing them up or down- granted my trucks a fat one, but all the same...

I've been put off the cheapy motors for life after cooking 3 of them.

PBO 04.14.2009 11:37 PM

I'm no expert but I didn't enjoy my Novak experience, too much wiring and fiddly stuff when sold as a speedy/motor package

I'd prefer to save for a Neu but would consider a Medusa on reputation alone

SpEEdyBL 04.16.2009 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever (Post 279271)
I don't know about that...I think a Feigao with a heatsink/clamp is a pretty good motor for the price. Mostly because it has a 540 sized rotor, and the HV has a 380 I believe. I'd think the HV would run hot long before the Feigao.

There's no comparison between feigao and novak. I've tried the hv4.5/7.5 and Feigao 8xl/9L. The feigaos heat up much faster and are much more problematic. You can't even gear them so you can get more power out of them than novak.

You do have to use a much smaller pinion gear with novak motors, but gearing them down doesn't result in much of a loss in top speed in my experience. The only thing you have to watch out for when running the novak motors with the mmm is demagnetizing the rotor. The novak rotors seem to be suceptable to demagnetization at lower temperatures than other motors such as feigao or castle. 175F seems to be the absolute maximum temperature.

IMHO its just a better idea to go with a castle motor. They are more solid units, and cogging is almost non-existant. If you do have cogging, will increase temperatures and put more strain on the rotor.


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