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JOHNNYMAXXIMA 01.27.2006 03:57 PM

LiPo LiPo LiPo!
 
Ok, I'm trying to figure out this hole LiPo thing. I really want to go LiPo in my dual 9L setup because the thing ways so much.

So I am running 28cells in it now, wich is obviously four 7cell packs. Each motor gets it's own two packs. The specs say that a 9L can handle up to 16cells (19.2v) but I hear alot of people say they wouldn't recomend it. Why would they publish that if it is not recomended?

Anyway, if I were to go LiPo, I was thinking about going with two 5s packs (one for each motor obviously) wich is 18.5v per motor vs. the 19.2 of the 16cell nimh packs. (do you see were I'm going with this) Is voltage voltage, or does it matter if it is coming from nimh or LiPo. If some people think that 16cells (19.2v) is a bit much for the 9L then a 5s LiPo (18.5v) must be a little bit easier on it?

Hopefully all that made sense, PLEASE HELP!:D

Sylvester 01.27.2006 04:14 PM

When a lipo cell is rated at 3.7v each it will realy go up to 4.2v on a full charge, so your total would really be 21v at full charge on both packs, im not sure if im 100% correct though.

coolhandcountry 01.27.2006 05:57 PM

With the weight lost would make it easier on motor to or motors in your case. It is going to push the motors pretty hard though. 3.7 volts a cell at 5 cells on a motor with a 2731 kv. your look at alomsot 50,000 rpm. of course that is unloaded rating to. I think the 4s may be better for you. You could probably step up in gearing for the lose of weight. So you gain the speed that way. That is 4s per motor.

poconoblmaxx 01.27.2006 06:11 PM

I second the 4s packs. You'll more than make up the difference in voltage with the weight savings.

28 sub c cells (2.2oz ea.) - 61.6 oz.
4 2s Kokam 3200 packs - 28.2 oz.

Voltage drop under load is also less with lipos.

MetalMan 01.27.2006 10:39 PM

5s Lipo unloaded, fresh from the charger could put out 4v/cell, at 20v. But then again, 16 NiMh cells fresh off the charger without much load (just tires spinning) could put out 1.3+v/cell. 4s Lipo wouldn't be a bad choice, as it would be easier on your motors. The punch delivered by 4s Lipo would be at least equal to 14 NiMh cells (depending on the actual cells), and you wouldn't be dissappointed.

JOHNNYMAXXIMA 01.28.2006 12:19 AM

So if a 4s pack would at least equal 14 nimh's does that mean that I will not gain any top speed by going to the LiPo's?

MetalMan 01.28.2006 01:29 AM

Your top speed with 4s probably won't be as good as with 14 NiMh cells, but the acceleration will be better. 5s Lipo is just a bit high for a 9L. The difference here between Lipo and NiMh is the voltage of each cell. IMO, you wouldn't be dissappointed with 4s Lipo. Or, you could move to 10Ls and then use 5s Lipo (not sure if you want to spend that much money though).

JOHNNYMAXXIMA 01.28.2006 04:59 AM

The specs on the 10L say 16cell maxx also, so why would a 5s work on that motor? Top speed is my main concern, so if I have to go to a 10L for that, I would.
Thanks.

boss 302 01.28.2006 08:35 AM

the only reason i can think of is that the 10L has a lower kv rating which would allow you to run on 5s without putting as much strain on the motors
fiego 9L=2731x20=54620rpm
fiego 10L=2458x20=49160rpm

MetalMan 01.28.2006 11:16 AM

boss 302 is correct. The 10L would just spin slower, which would be less likely to damage the rotor or bearings. But then, the 7XL would be a better choice, due to its lower kv than the 10L.

squeeforever 01.28.2006 12:41 PM

yup, i second the 7xl. i would through 2 of them on there with 10s lipo and see what happens....

boss 302 01.28.2006 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by squeeforever
yup, i second the 7xl. i would through 2 of them on there with 10s lipo and see what happens....

thatr would be crazy and very powerful hopefully you have a bulletproof drivetrain :eek: :eek: :eek:

coolhandcountry 01.28.2006 04:38 PM

You could put some really tall gearing on the truck with dual 7xls. I could see a 60 mph pass with the 7xls and 5s lipos. And that would be geared good. See about getting some bigger pinions for that setup.

JOHNNYMAXXIMA 01.28.2006 05:05 PM

Or I could just go dual Lehner 40 series?

coolhandcountry 01.28.2006 05:25 PM

I don't think they make a 40 series yet. :D I think you talking 1940 series. If you got the money You can run anything really. ;)


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