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loa 06.18.2009 11:14 AM

Puffed LiPo = Dead LiPo?
 
Hello,

Last time I bashed my revo with my LiPos, I noticed that they were a tad warmer than usual after the run. Never actually hot, but slightly warmer.

Today, after the run, they were trying to bend the aluminum box I had made to hold them. Puffed and burning hot. I could barely hold them in my hands.

They're now cooling in sand and my question is: are they completely dead?

If so I'm going to safely dispose of them.

Thanks

Loa

florianz 06.18.2009 11:29 AM

yes.

a irreversible process has started.

Arct1k 06.18.2009 11:30 AM

You could carefully remove the heatshrink and see how many cells have puffed (those ones are dead).

If only 1 you could send to Lincpimp to see if he can remove that cell.

See lipo repair thread - else its dead...

Rgds

lincpimp 06.18.2009 11:36 AM

Some more info on your setup would be handy. Lipo brand and specs, motor, esc, gearing , vehicle weight, vehicle type, tire size, etc. Sounds like you ran the lipo too hard and at least 1 cell has puffed.

loa 06.18.2009 11:38 AM

Hello,

That's what I thought, but I wanted to be sure. Thanks for the confirmation.

Since both they were severely puffed, I won't take the chance of opening them up.

I was using two 2S 8000 10C LiPos from TrueRC. I know that 10C (underrated?) was cutting it close, but it hard worked very nice so far. Since both they were severely puffed, I won't take the chance of opening them up.

Well, looks like my Revo is going to appear on the marketplace since I'm not planning on buying new LiPos... I seem to remember there being a buy/sell forum here, but it's gone. Changing rules?

Thanks

Loa

Arct1k 06.18.2009 11:41 AM

You can post a fs thread in general discussion without prices.

Snipin_Willy 06.18.2009 11:44 AM

4s 80 amp continuous setup seems low to me. I'm suprised you didn't melt the MMM, if that's what you were using. I wouldn't go less than 100amp continuous discharge rated pack in a monter truck.

loa 06.18.2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 296786)
You can post a fs thread in general discussion without prices.

Thx, will do!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snipin_Willy (Post 296788)
4s 80 amp continuous setup seems low to me. I'm suprised you didn't melt the MMM, if that's what you were using. I wouldn't go less than 100amp continuous discharge rated pack in a monter truck.

I know, that's why I said it was cutting it close. But last year when I built it, I saw many reports of ppl using the same set-up without trouble. It went perfectly fine for 25-30 bashing sessions... Was fun while it lasted!

Loa

Freezebyte 06.18.2009 02:16 PM

Only 10C rating? Holy shit, you lucky you didn't fry your ESC with that low of a rating. Castle has stated they recommend 120 amps CONTINOUS or above 25c to reliabley run their brushless motors and ECS.

loa 06.18.2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 296824)
Only 10C rating? Holy shit, you lucky you didn't fry your ESC with that low of a rating. Castle has stated they recommend 120 amps CONTINOUS or above 25c to reliabley run their brushless motors and ECS.

As I said: TureRC LiPos are supposed to be underrated, and quite a few ppl were running the same set-up last summer.

Maybe I got lucky with the MMM, but that's what happens, sometimes! :-)

Loa

Arct1k 06.18.2009 02:49 PM

That was a standard setup for a revo with a MM - The MMM lets the motors draw more amps which started to make these setups marginal.

As the batteries aged their performance couldn't keep up with the MM...

Shame you have to sell rather than get better lipos - There are quite a few reasonable options now.

Do you have a budget for replacements if you could go that route?

Bonne chance

loa 06.18.2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 296832)
Shame you have to sell rather than get better lipos - There are quite a few reasonable options now.

Bah... The Revo was already for sale in a local (Quebec) forum. But sadly, most ppl here don't have a clue that brushless = nitro killing, so it's not selling. I'm betting that next year, the brushless "reality" will hit every nitro fan pretty hard.

And in any case, I have too many (expensive) hobbies! :-D I just bought a 4000$ computer+monitor, and I'm planning on spending 600$ more on it for a RAID0 and RAM. Add 400$ if you count the SSD I want to try soon. And I have a Nikon D300 + 4 lenses, and 2 more pro level lenses I'm planning on buying this fall... (At least, this second hobby is one that is starting to be lucrative! hehe)

So do I have the budget for 2 more Lipos: yes. Do I want to spend more cash on a hobby I found nobody to share/play with? Nah...

Loa

Bondonutz 06.18.2009 04:29 PM

Sorry to hear your about your problems and termination of the hobby.
FYI, the 15C would have ben fine, Myself and several friends have the 15c packs for our E-Revos and have had zero issues. Luckily.
The Zippy packs are cheaper and better anyway,check them out. You may reconsider ?

loa 06.19.2009 05:21 PM

Hello,

I'm having trouble finding prices for those Zippy packs... Can you give me some links? Looking for something like two 2S 8000, at least 20C.

Thanks

Loa

e-mike 06.19.2009 05:30 PM

attend pour les prix i font des mise a jours sur le site:yes:jte le shooterai jne roule que ca des zippy:whistle:


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