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dezfan 07.28.2009 04:19 PM

60C really?
 
http://www.maxamps.com/proddetail.ph...8-Pack&cat=218

MaxAmps.com presents the ultimate 1/8-scale hard case racing pack. As you racers know, the most important factor for your batteries is voltage under load. This LiPo pack boasts a 60C rating for all your amp hungry racing setups. It will maintain higher voltage under load than any other LiPo battery pack on the market. Plus, you'll have no problem getting plenty of run time with 5250mah of capacity.

Perfect fit for any 1/8 scale electric vehicle that runs a single 4S pack including the Losi 8ight-E, Associated RC8-E, SC8-E and more!

- Hard Outer Case
- 5250mah Capacity
- 14.8 Volts
- 47mm X 139mm X 39mm
- 60C - 4660 surge watts(315 amps)
- 504 grams
- Water-sealed for all-weather protection
- Comes standard with Hyperion taps
- Comes standard with 12awg Deans Ultra wire
- Highest performance in the industry
- Twice the capacity of NiMH for the same weight
- Plug and Play for any charger/balancer/vehicle
- We add the connectors and balancing taps for you
- Money Back Guarantee
- Normally ships within 24-48 hours
- Exceeds safety standards of the IATA
- Built today with factory fresh cells
- Can be recharged unlimited times per day
- Copper Tab Cells for lower resistance

This should be interesting.

whitrzac 07.28.2009 04:28 PM

looks at price* I need new undiees...


maxamps rateing= 60c
real rating = 10-20c:diablo:

BrianG 07.28.2009 04:31 PM

*cough* *choke* *splutter*

$250 for a 4s pack?? It better hold 3.7v/cell at 60C to be worth that price!

whitrzac: I've said it once, and I'll say it again; I'm sure that 60C spec is real (no sarcasm), but notice they do not say what the voltage will be at 60C?

whitrzac 07.28.2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 308156)
*cough* *choke* *splutter*

$250 for a 4s pack?? It better hold 3.7v/cell at 60C to be worth that price!

whitrzac: I've said it once, and I'll say it again; I'm sure that 60C spec is real (no sarcasm), but notice they do not say what the voltage will be at 60C?

I supose...

Andrew32 07.28.2009 04:51 PM

60c surge, so i take that rating as a 30c constant and 60c burst.


translate that and i expect 20c 50c......i got my math right?

BL_RV0 07.28.2009 05:01 PM

I'd say 15c/25c...

nitrostarter 07.28.2009 05:05 PM

I say let them do their advertising and have the UNEDUCATED buy those over-rated packs....

ClodMaxx 07.28.2009 05:05 PM

even if it were 60c, why the 12 guage wire? can't they splurge the extra 5 cents a pack and upgrade to at least 10? i mean, if it really is 60c, lol.

drkdgglr 07.28.2009 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 308156)
*cough* *choke* *splutter*

$250 for a 4s pack?? It better hold 3.7v/cell at 60C to be worth that price!

whitrzac: I've said it once, and I'll say it again; I'm sure that 60C spec is real (no sarcasm), but notice they do not say what the voltage will be at 60C?

well they do say 4660watts surge @ 315 amps(=3.7v/cell)

and on their site they explain:
Quote:

Using a data logger and an actual RC motor and speed control, we test the “surge watts” by applying a load to the pack(not an individual cell) and confirming that it will maintain well over 3.2V per cell during this load. By using this method, we are confident that your MaxAmps pack will deliver the rated “surge watt” load without hitting the low voltage cutoff or damaging your pack.

BL_RV0 07.28.2009 05:21 PM

So... $250 for a 4s pack that MIGHT hold 3.2v/cell...

redshift 07.28.2009 05:22 PM

Jeez they couldn't even make a flashy new label?

I'll believe their claims when I see a 3S version start a 1:1 V8.... should do it according to their equipment right?

BrianG 07.28.2009 05:27 PM

Hmm, still, I'll believe it when I see it. Testing of my own MA packs leads me to believe otherwise (granted, they are older-generation cells). Maybe they listened to the masses and/or got tired of warranty claims and actually have cells that performed as advertised now? Still think the price tag is a bit hefty...

nitrostarter 07.28.2009 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 308172)
Still think the price tag is a bit hefty...

Definitely a bit hefty. I would consider trying their stuff if the price wasn't outrageous...

BrianG 07.28.2009 05:33 PM

It would behoove them to send a sample pack to a respected third party for verification. Some people simply have a bad taste in their mouth from past experiences and it would lend a bit of credibility to have someone substantiate their claims.

zeropointbug 07.28.2009 05:41 PM

60C is just MA omitting the continuous C rating and using the surge, they are playing with the noobs here. They aren't lying or anything (although they might be), they just aren't stating the C. C rating with I'm sure is something like 30C or lower in reality.

The surge watts is BS though, that is based on the fact that a lipo cell is 3.7v/cell Nominal, they think they can do a simple calculation and multiply the nominal voltage by their so called 60C and get that number. It sickens me. :no:


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