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Slowkrawl 10.18.2009 09:36 PM

Fix for the bumper supports issue?
 
I think most savage owners know what I am talking about. I'm not a huge fan of using 100 zip ties to hold my savage together:lol:. I know freeze tried out a plastic doo-dad but it broke. Is there anything else on the market? Thanks,

-Matt

Freezebyte 10.18.2009 09:58 PM

I think you mean the support struts for the bumpers and yeah, I know Team TCS was working on some but the prototypes didn't hold up, I was one of the testers.

Slowkrawl 10.18.2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 328093)
I think you me the support struts for the bumpers and yeah, I know Team TCS was working on some but the prototypes didn't hold up, I was one of the testers.

Ohh I thought it was a buddy of yours or something that was making them. I wonder why they didn't just start with a piece of alum.? Maybe I'll e-mail them and ask.

Freezebyte 10.18.2009 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 328094)
Ohh I thought it was a buddy of yours or something that was making them. I wonder why they didn't just start with a piece of alum.? Maybe I'll e-mail them and ask.

My guess is cost

JThiessen 10.18.2009 10:25 PM

I'm with ya on this one...I think looking at it from the perspective of eliminating the bumpers might help. You then have to figure out how to retain the pins somehow....When I have mine apart over the next couple weeks, I'll see what I can think up.

Slowkrawl 10.18.2009 10:34 PM

IMHO, removing the bumpers would be a bad idea. I use them A LOT lol.

JThiessen 10.18.2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 328106)
IMHO, removing the bumpers would be a bad idea. I use them A LOT lol.

I hear you on that!
I should have said it differently. In problem solving, you need to break things down to their smaller components. So once you remove the bumper, the primary function of the bumper support is to retain the hinge pins. How would you retain those pins if the bumper supports werent there....mount a plate somehow? Gotta be some way to do it.

One thing about it, those bumper supports absorb a LOT of energy. So what ever the answer is, its gonna have to provide that same absorbing quality, or take that load somewhere else.

Freezebyte 10.18.2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Slowkrawl (Post 328106)
IMHO, removing the bumpers would be a bad idea. I use them A LOT lol.

I had some serious hard nose dives this weekend bashing and amazingly, I only bent a support brace screw.

Slowkrawl 10.19.2009 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 328115)
I hear you on that!
I should have said it differently. In problem solving, you need to break things down to their smaller components. So once you remove the bumper, the primary function of the bumper support is to retain the hinge pins. How would you retain those pins if the bumper supports werent there....mount a plate somehow? Gotta be some way to do it.

One thing about it, those bumper supports absorb a LOT of energy. So what ever the answer is, its gonna have to provide that same absorbing quality, or take that load somewhere else.

I like your style, the hinge pins falling out is almost an issue in itself. As much as I hate e-clips, I hate the pins falling out more. Maybe an easy solution would be to score the pin itself and put an e-clip on there. To be honest, I am too lazy right now to open my door and walk the 5 feet to see if this would work on the savage.

_dV 10.26.2009 03:43 AM

Look what showed up on HPI's new parts list
http://www.hpiracing.com/products/en/102538/

Sway bars that also capture hinge pins :yipi:

JThiessen 10.26.2009 08:52 AM

I saw the bars last week - just didn't occur to me that they captured the pins.

Freezebyte 10.26.2009 10:30 AM

Something tells me those wouldn't last very long on a heavy bash session

Finnster 10.26.2009 11:52 AM

Before I put on a zip tie to keep the supports together, I tried putting a set screw in the side of the diff cover to reatain the pin. I could only fit a 3mm screw, and it wasn't quite enough to retain the pin (couldn't TQ enough), but perhaps if a flat spot was made on the end of the pin it would work better.

Never really tried as the zip tie has been working really well since.

Gee 11.07.2009 09:39 AM

Was hooking up some led lights on the savage and for some reason thought about this thread and got side tracked on the lights. This is what I came up with.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...mpinbraket.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...pinbraket1.jpg

JThiessen 11.07.2009 10:46 PM

That's basically what I was thinking too.


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