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DanteX 01.15.2010 07:00 PM

Savage without tvp's
 
Hi there

I drew a baseplate for my Savage a wile back and i want you to tell me what you think.
Basically you remove the tvps and the center gear box and replace it with a standard buggy/truggy 1:1 gear.
The front and rear is screwed directly to the plate.

What do you think? :yes:


http://www.abload.de/img/savage87el.jpg

Greetings,
DanteX aka Andy

EDit:

The whole plate will be cut with laser and the holes made by a cnc.
And the fron side with more holes will be bend a lil' .




PS: Will add the picture as soon as possible
PSS: ADDED!

thzero 01.15.2010 08:17 PM

Er, why? Is there really a need for a flat-bottom chassis? I can see having a center diff in a brushless Savage (I want one for mine... Mike!), but otherwise can't see much reason. I suppose you get a bit lower CoG, and it might in some cases be a bit easier to work on.

Most of the bodies probably will end up leaving a gap; in a standard Savage the TVPs are visible which looks ok. But without the TVPs the gap will expose electronics, etc. from the side so (as it is on when I put a SC8 body on my RC8Te) you might want to make some lexan sidewalls that can be painted and put up to 'cover' the gap. Either that or make the middle of the chassis like 2" wider on each side and then rollup the sides for 2" walls.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanteX (Post 344306)
I drew a baseplate for my Savage a wile back and i want you to tell me what you think.

I should add I don't mean to sound like my opinion is you shouldn't do it, cuz if you wanna do it, just do it... :)

lincpimp 01.15.2010 11:28 PM

Kinda like a HPI muggy... Not a bad idea. I am not super fond of the tvp design myself, but the post X savvys are much easier to work on. You may find that you do not get enough reduction with just a center spur and pinion. That is one issue with the muggy and losi went with lower ratio diffs to help offset the lack of a tranny.

thzero 01.15.2010 11:50 PM

Take out the TVPs and the gearbox, you have a truggy. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 344357)
Kinda like a HPI muggy... Not a bad idea. I am not super fond of the tvp design myself, but the post X savvys are much easier to work on. You may find that you do not get enough reduction with just a center spur and pinion. That is one issue with the muggy and losi went with lower ratio diffs to help offset the lack of a tranny.


Kcaz25 01.16.2010 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thzero (Post 344358)
Take out the TVPs and the gearbox, you have a truggy. :)

Not so. Show me a truggy that has the kind of ground clearence potential this will have as far as the natural droop of the arms.

I like the idea, yeah like James said kinda like a HPI muggy.

DanteX 01.16.2010 06:40 AM

Glad you like it (kind of ) :lol:

I am looking for a cheap savage right now on ebay, because i dont want to change my savage XL. i could bend the sides a bit for stiffness and dirt "protection".

I will use a custom made center spur-gear mount, able to fit a way bigger spur gear probably 55 to 70 tooth.

regards, danteX

thzero 01.16.2010 10:22 AM

I have just as much ground clearance with my RC8T as I do with my Savage (measured underneath the diffs), the RC8T (same with apply to any truggy) also has slightly wider stance with longer a-arms. Droop, well it is slightly more limited due to the droop adjustment mechanism; cut that off and well you have more droop available with the longer a-arms. The ground clearance you get for the raised TVPs between the front and rear of course completely goes away with a flat bottom chassis.

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Originally Posted by Kcaz25 (Post 344370)
Not so. Show me a truggy that has the kind of ground clearence potential this will have as far as the natural droop of the arms.


BitHed 02.12.2010 02:04 AM

Hey Ho :) Following this one...

My biggest issue in getting the bulks onto a flat plate was eliminating forward / back flex...and trying to tie in the front and rear bulks together...

Mine takes the old hellfire center diff which is still going well...will watch this thread and chime in when i think i can sound like i know what im talking about :)

ADDED: What are you going to do about the front kick-up? I actually sat the bulkheads on with their alloy skidplates still on and just bent up the front to match...unfortunately the front is lightly crooked :)


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