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crazyjr 04.13.2010 07:54 PM

Ballistic 550's a reality
 
Looks like Novak is making the 550 a ballistic motor, Wonder if they will offer anything in a 2500kv equiv.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...550/index.html

gixxer 04.13.2010 10:32 PM

Saw that on rccaraction and redrc. This should be great for the guys running 4x4 sct's. I have been running there 6.5 hv in my jammin for a month or so and it works great. Might still pick up one of these in a lower turn for the outdoor season.

Andrew222 04.14.2010 05:16 AM

Can someone please clarify what the watt rating of the motors tells me?

The 5.5 turn ballistics 550 motor is rated at 800 watts and a 13.5 ballistics 540 motor is rated at 195 watts. So does that mean:

...that its going to drain the battery 4x quicker when I'm WOT vs ballistics 13.5

...that there 4x the torque throughout the entire power band vs a ballistics 13.5? Insane acceleration?

Can you use this motor in a MMP?

Please enlighten me...I'm stumped...

nuz69 04.14.2010 10:23 AM

NO,
That means that the motor can handle more power IF IT HAS TO....
You will probably use only 400 or 500watts but with more efficiency, so for the same top speed, you should have same runtime...

NovakTwo 04.14.2010 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 360114)
Looks like Novak is making the 550 a ballistic motor, Wonder if they will offer anything in a 2500kv equiv.

http://www.teamnovak.com/products/br...550/index.html

In addition to the optional 7.5 wound stator, we can also offer whatever other winds customers want to use.

Such as 8.5, and maybe 3.5.

ta_man 04.14.2010 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew222 (Post 360183)
Can someone please clarify what the watt rating of the motors tells me?

The 5.5 turn ballistics 550 motor is rated at 800 watts and a 13.5 ballistics 540 motor is rated at 195 watts. So does that mean:

...that its going to drain the battery 4x quicker when I'm WOT vs ballistics 13.5

...that there 4x the torque throughout the entire power band vs a ballistics 13.5? Insane acceleration?

Can you use this motor in a MMP?

Please enlighten me...I'm stumped...

You don't use more power than it takes to run the car.

Example: I ran a HV4.5 powered Slash 4X4 13 minutes (until the truck slowed down) on an off-road track using a 4500 mAHr LiFe (Turnigy pack). So my average amp draw was 4.5 / (13/60) = 20.7 amps. The average pack voltage (I know from discharging the LiFes at 20 amps) was about 6.3V. So, on average, the motor was using 131 watts.

I was using a MMP and you can too.

Andrew222 04.14.2010 10:11 PM

so why would I want to go get a 550 motor instead of sticking with a 540 motor? If I'm going to average using 200 watts, is there any point in going with a 550 motor that I can't get 800 watts out of?

ta_man 04.14.2010 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew222 (Post 360318)
so why would I want to go get a 550 motor instead of sticking with a 540 motor? If I'm going to average using 200 watts, is there any point in going with a 550 motor that I can't get 800 watts out of?

You wouldn't if you were running a 3.5 pound 1/10th scale buggy or truck. (Well, you probably wouldn't.)

But in a 5.8 pound SCT, a 550 has an easier time of it, and runs cooler, than a 540 motor. Lots of people are seeing temps around 170 to 180 using the 540 motors in a SCT. The HV motors run around 120-140 with reasonable gearing and will just last longer because of that.

Also note that the 800 watt rating is a peak power output for an unspecified (by Novak) period of time.

NovakTwo 05.10.2010 12:49 PM

We will begin shipping the Ballistic 550s to our distributors later this week.

simplechamp 05.14.2010 03:05 AM

Any word on getting the lower kv winds into the lineup? If you had one at around 1800-2200kv I would love to try it out in my buggy. The only thing keeping me from trying the HV motors or new 550 Ballistics is the higher kv rating.

NovakTwo 05.14.2010 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 364422)
Any word on getting the lower kv winds into the lineup? If you had one at around 1800-2200kv I would love to try it out in my buggy. The only thing keeping me from trying the HV motors or new 550 Ballistics is the higher kv rating.

Winding stators for the completed motors we are shipping is our highest priority right now, but we will be adding replacement wound stators to store inventory soon. I just emailed manufacturing to see if we can add a few of this lower Kv replacement.

NovakTwo 05.15.2010 10:02 AM

We should have these Ballistic 550 replacement wound stators (8.5 wind) in our store inventory in a week to 10 days.

JoFreak 05.15.2010 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 360138)
I have been running there 6.5 hv in my jammin for a month or so and it works great.

Hey, I have the same combination. but haven't been able to drive it on a track yet.
What pinion and ESC / ESC-settings are you using?

simplechamp 05.16.2010 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 364569)
We should have these Ballistic 550 replacement wound stators (8.5 wind) in our store inventory in a week to 10 days.

Do you have an idea of what the approximate kv rating the 8.5 wind will be?

NovakTwo 05.17.2010 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 364676)
Do you have an idea of what the approximate kv rating the 8.5 wind will be?

I'll check and see if we have a Kv for the 8.5, yet


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