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Rtsbasic 03.29.2006 06:40 AM

8XL on 12 cells, as powerful as 8L?
 
Just to satisfy my curiousity, would an 8XL on 12 cells be able to hit the same top speed and have the same acceleration as an 8L on 12 cells? The longer can would take care of the heat problems I am having with the 8L in theory but I don't want to loose any power. The 8XL would be nice beacuse I can run it on 16 cells in a few months.

Thanks.

boss 302 03.29.2006 07:15 AM

with the 8xl you will be able to gear higher and get the same speed and acceleration as the 8L

Sylvester 03.29.2006 07:36 AM

gearing it higher will not make acceleration faster, so in theory youll get same topspeeds just not the quickness off the line as the 8l.

Rtsbasic 03.29.2006 07:51 AM

It has virtually idential resistance to the 8L and can pull the same number of amps according to them feigao rating charts, does this not mean it will be able to pull enough amps to accelerate hard with the steeper gearing for the same top speed as the smaller more revvy 8L?

coolhandcountry 03.29.2006 07:58 AM

I have a video of a 9xl on 12 cells if you curious of what the performance looks like. It is in rcpics. I think the 8xl would do better in my opinnion. I have seen a 8L on 12 cells. I have not ran but a 7xl and 9xl though.

maxxdude1234 03.29.2006 09:33 AM

In theory the two motors will perform exactly the same if geared for the same speed. Acceleration and top speed will be the same. The only difference is the 8XL gets the majority of its power from torque, whereas the 8L gets power from rpm. Basically, power = torque x rpm.

Definately go for the 8XL over the 8L

Rtsbasic 03.29.2006 09:59 AM

Is there anywhere you can purchase bigger than 20t pinions? 32 pitch 5mm ones that is. Mike only has up to 20t, with 20/66 and stock tyres thats barely 30mph, I'd like to gear a bit higher than that if possible.

coolhandcountry, I couldn't find a video of you running 12 cells in your rcpics account?

maxxdude1234 03.29.2006 10:08 AM

Why not use a 7XL, would be a better option for 12cells. I believe kershaw designs stock a wide range of pinions, pricey though

GriffinRU 03.29.2006 03:21 PM

8XL is more powerfull then 8L
800W vs 1200W
And do not be confused with motor resistance, it is the Kv parameter which is important!
Artur

maxxdude1234 03.30.2006 08:19 AM

True, but its unlikely that 12cells packs will be able to ship out 1200W continuous. It'll be a push to get 800W out of them too.

SpEEdyBL 04.01.2006 02:42 PM

The xl motors are more powerful because they can handle more cells. Otherwise, two motors with the same resistance regardless of their sizes will have the same power at a given voltage.

coolhandcountry 04.01.2006 04:14 PM

The xl will have more torque at the same wattage. It will have more power accually.

GriffinRU 04.01.2006 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL
The xl motors are more powerful because they can handle more cells. Otherwise, two motors with the same resistance regardless of their sizes will have the same power at a given voltage.

Are you sure about that?...

Artur

maxxdude1234 04.01.2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coolhandcountry
The xl will have more torque at the same wattage. It will have more power accually.

How can it have more power at the same wattage? Power is watts! Yes, it will have more torque at a given power output, but that second bit makes no sense.

coolhandcountry 04.01.2006 04:31 PM

Well power is watts and torque. Sure the watts are the same but the torque is more for it has more power.


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