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Freezebyte 08.26.2010 05:58 PM

Concerned about new Savage Flux running a bit warm on test drive
 
Allright, looking for some input from the castle guys on my temperature concerns with my new Flux on its first test drive. My new project, "Frostbyte II" with a new Savage Flux is nearing completion and I FINALLY got to take it on a test run today to see how everything performs.

This was the following setup during my 10-12 min outside, concrete run.

Gearing
: Stock 20/44
Slipper pad: Cranked down tight
Lipos: Turnigy 5200mha 30c-40c hardcase
Blur settings: 10% punch control, 20% brake, no drag brake, 25% reverse, 3.5v cutoff
Diffs: 50k oil front and rear

The truck is on standard HPI GT-2 tires with white dish wheels. It's also on an extended FLM TVP chassis with HPI extended axles. The endbell of the Tork motor has also been sealed up with screws to minimize dirt intake.

I went outside a short time ago in around 90 degree temps and gave the Flux some trial runs on the black concrete with no shell on. It was basic, straight speed runs with a variety of throttle usage from full on power to slow acceleration along with testing the vehicle's ability to wheelie via both a rolling and standing start. Within a few minutes, I stopped and checked the temps of the motor and ESC and they seemed reasonable, so I continued a few more speed and wheelie runs on the concrete along with a fair amount of braking.

Around the 5-7 minute mark, I checked the temps again and I noticed the motor housing was getting pretty warm all around. I could keep my finger on it without discomfort. The ESC was also pretty warm on the outside. I did some short wheelie, full throttle blips and checked again. This time, the ESC fan was kicked on and ran for a few seconds before shutting off, the bullet connectors were hot to the touch and the motor housing was now pretty warm, warmer then I remember my first Flux motor running.

Unfortuantly, I do not have a temp gun, so I am going by feeling for temperature readings. I again did a few more laps on the concrete and once again, the ESC fan was running when I brought it in again and the motor definently had a singy feeling heat quality to it. With that, I shut it down, brought it inside and also found the Lipo's were slightly warm to touch once I removed them.

It's been awhile since I drove my first Flux so I'm no longer familiar with how my temps should be, especially with my current build. Could I be increasing motor temps from sealing the endbell? Is that still considered "safe" on sealing the endbell like you told me last year? Is the XL chassis and wide axle putting that much more load on the whole system? The entire tranny felt very smooth all around with no binding that I could feel anywhere.

Any suggestions or incite Patrick to either confirm or deny my temp worries? Thanks again.


http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...trialsetup.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...sealmotor3.jpg

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m...e2/finally.jpg

brushlessboy16 08.26.2010 06:01 PM

Spend the 20 dollars and get a temp gun to know whats going on with your 1500 dollar truck...

Esc fan comes on at 150 which is fine...

Arct1k 08.26.2010 06:14 PM

If you can hold your finger on the motor for 3secs its fine but i agree get a temp gun

nitrostarter 08.26.2010 06:21 PM

Get a temp gun!

Freezebyte 08.26.2010 06:25 PM

*sigh*...... another thing to buy

brushlessboy16 08.26.2010 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 378225)
*sigh*...... another thing to buy

20 now or 170 later if and when you melt down a major component....:whistle::whistle:

Freezebyte 08.26.2010 06:32 PM

I know, guess i'll place another order from Amain...


http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...perature-Gauge

brushlessboy16 08.26.2010 06:33 PM

Thats the one i have :)

Freezebyte 08.26.2010 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 378228)
Thats the one i have :)

Oh? Does it work fairly well/accurate? I can't complain much for $25

Bondonutz 08.26.2010 08:15 PM

Once you get a temp gun, (should have ben bought long ago) I think you'll see your probably worrying for nothing.

Raising the punch control will help with temps as well, make sure your motor timing is set at Low or Normal at the most.

magman 08.26.2010 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 378227)
I know, guess i'll place another order from Amain...


http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...perature-Gauge

+1 I also have that one...

BashemSmashem 08.26.2010 08:19 PM

If you can hold your finger on the motor then you are fine , but if you are unsure then a temp gauge would be cheap insurance .

freeagent 08.26.2010 08:37 PM

I have that duratrax one too. It reads about 20 degrees under compared to my odonnell one. I think I changed a setting to "6"? For reading anodised things.. Then it was better. Its been awhile since Ive used it.. So Im a bit fuzzy on the numbers.

Freezebyte 08.26.2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 378241)
Once you get a temp gun, (should have ben bought long ago) I think you'll see your probably worrying for nothing.

Raising the punch control will help with temps as well, make sure your motor timing is set at Low or Normal at the most.

Punch is at 10% right now, timing is set to default

Bondonutz 08.26.2010 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freezebyte (Post 378251)
Punch is at 10% right now, timing is set to default

I know, read it in the first post.

Like I said, if you raise the PC it will help w/temps

I think motor timing at default is "normal" and thats OK, but again on low it will help w/temps also.


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