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Bondonutz 01.18.2012 02:27 PM

Question for Castle Reps or anyone who may know ?
 
Castle is not excepting calls till Monday.

I have a older model MMM with bullet receptacles for the motor wires and want to wire up a 540 2 pole 10.5T sensored motor to it. Can this be done and run unsensored, if so which ports are designated A,B,C ??

THX,
J.

RC-Monster Mike 01.18.2012 03:14 PM

In sensorless mode, the A, B, and C wire designation is not important. Make your connections and activate the motor - if it turns the wrong way, swap any two wires and you're done.

josh9mille 01.18.2012 03:17 PM

As far as I know (and thats not much) all sensored motors can be run unsensored. Wire it up like any other motor, if it runs backwards just swap 2 wires around.

Edit: Mike beat me to it lol

Bondonutz 01.18.2012 03:33 PM

A buddy of mine smoked his MMP hooking up a sensored motor planning to run it unsensored so I was concerned doing the same.

Thanks Mike & Josh.

snellemin 01.18.2012 03:37 PM

That smoking might of come from the startup cogging that you get from running slotted 2 pole motors.

BrianG 01.18.2012 05:02 PM

IIRC, you can also select motor direction in CastleLink if you can't/don't want to swap wires...

pinkpanda3310 01.19.2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 416645)
IIRC, you can also select motor direction in CastleLink if you can't/don't want to swap wires...

and 2 or 4 pole

coolhandcountry 01.19.2012 10:11 AM

I do know I tried to run a novak motor from a HVmaxx setup on sensorless cotroller.
I did not have such good luck.
It ran but never smooth like it should.
Look up the motor and see if it says anything about sensorless.
I didn't smoke nothing but had cogging issues.

snellemin 01.19.2012 11:29 AM

You will always have that startup cogging with those roar type motors trying to run sensorless. You can reduce that effect with gearing and startup power, but to me that just sucks as you can't get the full potential out of the motor. The 4 pole sensored motors work just fine in sensorless.

crazyjr 01.20.2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinkpanda3310 (Post 416683)
and 2 or 4 pole

Sorry, not on the mamba's, I just checked mine

pinkpanda3310 01.20.2012 11:46 PM

My apologies, I must have been thinking of my medusa program.:oh:

ta_man 01.22.2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 416693)
You will always have that startup cogging with those roar type motors trying to run sensorless. You can reduce that effect with gearing and startup power, but to me that just sucks as you can't get the full potential out of the motor. The 4 pole sensored motors work just fine in sensorless.

Tech guy I knew a long time ago said "Generalizations are never true."

I think it depends on the motor. I ran a Novak 8.5 (2 pole slotted) motor on an original Castle sidewinder for a while in a 2WD off-road truck and I thought it ran better than when I was using it with a sensored ESC.

snellemin 01.22.2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 416824)
Tech guy I knew a long time ago said "Generalizations are never true."

I think it depends on the motor. I ran a Novak 8.5 (2 pole slotted) motor on an original Castle sidewinder for a while in a 2WD off-road truck and I thought it ran better than when I was using it with a sensored ESC.

What rotor where you using in that 8.5T motor?

I got around the cogging with a 12.5mm rotor and some more voltage with my 2.5T motors. The LRP with 14mm rotor is a hard one to start up in sensorless.

ta_man 01.22.2012 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 416825)
What rotor where you using in that 8.5T motor?

I got around the cogging with a 12.5mm rotor and some more voltage with my 2.5T motors. The LRP with 14mm rotor is a hard one to start up in sensorless.

IIRC, standard 12.3 rotor.


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