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rawfuls 03.27.2012 05:35 PM

Drill as a Temporary Dremel?
 
Sooo, I've yet still to invest some money into a dremel, because all the old school tools work just fine, so far.

Until then, I'd like to get a cutting wheel and perhaps pop it into one of my Dad's DeWalt drills..

Would this suffice? Do such cutting wheels exist with a tail on the back that can be used into a drill?

All I want to do is cut some perfect cuts in an Altoids can (very thin tin/aluminum) for a little side business.

Yes yes yes, invest your money into proper tools, but honestly this is the only thing I'd use it for, for now..

hashemio 03.27.2012 06:32 PM

Honestly, as strong as a drill it is, I don't think it will spin fast enough for you to get a perfect cut in the aluminum. If you go to Walmart, you can get one pretty cheap, OR if you really want a cheap one that will do small jobs, you should check to see if you have a Harbor Freight Tools near you. I get all my small tools and other parts I need for R/C there and they are SUPER CHEAP! Good Luck!

Overdriven 03.27.2012 06:56 PM

I've used dremel bits in a drill press before, including dremel cutoff wheels. Drills and presses do rotate much slower, wasn't a problem for my particular application. But could prove slow and harder to control for yours, give it a shot.

rawfuls 03.27.2012 07:05 PM

Hmm, didn't know they spun significantly slower that it'd affect the cutting control-ability.

I'm curious as to see how the Harbor Freight ones perform, I see them a ton of times for $10.. But I've heard cutting aluminum is even tough with those guys..

As far as the dremel bits, do they sell them with the little shaft that could fit in a drill?
It's worth a short, and with Spring Break coming up... might not be a bad idea to just grab a Dremel..

brainanator 03.27.2012 10:34 PM

My dad bought my little bro and me a cheap harbor freight dremel for kicks once. It had terrible torque, and would bog down doing anything at all (even polishing). Cutting with a cutoff disk could be done, but slowly. Worked for probably 7-10 projects then crapped out on me, but was very cheap, and probably worth the price he paid for it.

rawfuls 03.27.2012 10:36 PM

Which one would that be?

They look like they have three different ones.

http://www.harborfreight.com/80-piec...kit-97626.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/profess...kit-40457.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/96-volt...kit-92880.html

As appetizing the cheap one is, I really like the flex shaft that the cordless one comes with, however, the cordless one is well, cordless.
And for a cheap tool, I'd much rather have a plug as it should obviously have as much power as it needs as opposed to a battery.

hashemio 03.27.2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brainanator (Post 419683)
My dad bought my little bro and me a cheap harbor freight dremel for kicks once. It had terrible torque, and would bog down doing anything at all (even polishing). Cutting with a cutoff disk could be done, but slowly. Worked for probably 7-10 projects then crapped out on me, but was very cheap, and probably worth the price he paid for it.

LOL hey! i didn't say it was perfect! You would probably get it there for less than $10

wellby 03.27.2012 10:53 PM

Try using a box cutter and back the cut with wood, should cut through pretty quickly

Overdriven 03.27.2012 11:08 PM

The cutoff wheels those kits come with are a joke, they shatter if you look at them the wrong way. The reinforced Dremel ones with the quick change mandrel are the best. Pick up one of them and put it in your drill chuck and give it a shot.

When using a cutoff wheel, slower speeds generally make the tool want to grab the work and jump around more. Higher speeds (to a certain point) generally slice right through instead of grabbing. Drill speeds were fine for my application, but for thin metal and/or fairly long cuts, a higher speed would help with control. All depends on the material and what kind of cuts.

rawfuls 03.27.2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by wellby (Post 419686)
Try using a box cutter and back the cut with wood, should cut through pretty quickly

Kind of hard to find the perfect piece of wood to fit into the small box.
(here comes the jokes.)
But I think I just may saw one off one of our 2x4s and give that a try..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 419687)
The cutoff wheels those kits come with are a joke, they shatter if you look at them the wrong way. The reinforced Dremel ones with the quick change mandrel are the best. Pick up one of them and put it in your drill chuck and give it a shot.

When using a cutoff wheel, slower speeds generally make the tool want to grab the work and jump around more. Higher speeds (to a certain point) generally slice right through instead of grabbing. Drill speeds were fine for my application, but for thin metal and/or fairly long cuts, a higher speed would help with control. All depends on the material and what kind of cuts.

Interesting.
How much are the reinforced Dremel wheels?
Which one would I want for aluminum (more specifically, thin aluminum?)
It will be very precise cuts, to give you an idea, I'm just cutting a hole for a small USB port, so it will have to be a pretty small blade?

jayjay283 03.27.2012 11:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellby (Post 419686)
Try using a box cutter and back the cut with wood, should cut through pretty quickly

put some weight into it, you're trying to cut an altoits tin

Overdriven 03.27.2012 11:33 PM

You're not going to be able to use a cutoff wheel for that. There are some Dremel bits that act like a router, but even they are too large for a mini USB, plus they are hard to control.

My suggestion is to drill a series of small holes, you can drill just the corners or drill a complete outline. Then use a xacto or box cutter to play connect the dots.

rawfuls 03.27.2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Overdriven (Post 419690)
You're not going to be able to use a cutoff wheel for that. There are some Dremel bits that act like a router, but even they are too large for a mini USB, plus they are hard to control.

My suggestion is to drill a series of small holes, you can drill just the corners or drill a complete outline. Then use a xacto or box cutter to play connect the dots.

Tried the series of small holes and cut across with xacto/box cutter..
I guess I just need a new razor/something hard to press through.

BrianG 03.27.2012 11:45 PM

If you can start with a 3/8" hole, a nibbling tool makes nice square holes: http://www.parts-express.com/pe/show...number=360-022

Otherwise, a knife would be better IMO.

brainanator 03.28.2012 08:45 AM

the one I had was comparable to the $10 model, though this was ~8 years ago, so the exact one is probably long gone.
And yes, the cutting disks shattered all the time, wear safety glasses!


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