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sleepy23 06.13.2006 12:07 PM

new brushless for stadium truck??
 
well, i will keep this one shorter since i lost my first post.
i currently have a mgm80 and a 6s motor in a highly modified t4 i use on the street only. this current setup on a 2s lipo is sending me up to 50mph with current gearing. I have a 3s that i plan on using for very short speed runs. my question is what system could i step up to that is lighter/faster/stronger and can be run on a 2s or 3s lipo pack?
thanks

cart213 06.13.2006 12:16 PM

In a few days, Castle Creations will be releasing their new Mamba Maxx systems. You can get one of three motors with the following kv values: 4600, 5700, and 7700. The 4600 and 5700 can run on 2s or 3s lipo, and the 7700 can use 2s with the stock bec. The 5700 on 3s and the 7700 on 2s should both be faster than your feigao 6s.

skellyo 06.13.2006 12:37 PM

I hate to say it, but I'd really hesitate to recommend any new motors from Castle until they are actually on the market and have been proven to perform to the standards most of us expect.

SpEEdyBL 06.13.2006 03:29 PM

The 380c 9t on 3s lipo will reach 50 mph in a t4, just like your 6s on 2s lipo, but it will spool up much much faster. The only downside is that it's picky with the gearing. Even faster is the lehner 4200, which is just as light as the 380c 9t, but costs twice as much. These motors are good if you are extremely impatient. I highly recommend that you wait for the mamba motors. That's what we've all all been waiting for for the past 2 years. The release date is suposed to be in 2 days.

MetalMan 06.13.2006 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by skellyo
I hate to say it, but I'd really hesitate to recommend any new motors from Castle until they are actually on the market and have been proven to perform to the standards most of us expect.

They've been proven (beta testing). They exceed the standards of most for lower-cost motors.

skellyo 06.13.2006 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMan
They've been proven (beta testing). They exceed the standards of most for lower-cost motors.

What's the advantage then? I have heard nothing but hype of what the real advantage over something else at this point is since castle hasn't released firm specs or pricing.

MetalMan 06.13.2006 05:40 PM

Basically, these motors are more efficient than their similarly-priced counterparts. That makes them able to put out more power for the same amount of heat that they release.

skellyo 06.13.2006 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetalMan
Basically, these motors are more efficient than their similarly-priced counterparts. That makes them able to put out more power for the same amount of heat that they release.

I have to assume that that's in comparison to Feigao 540 and 380C motors, correct? If that's the case, will the pricing on these motors indeed be in the $65-70 range?

f150dan 06.13.2006 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL
The 380c 9t on 3s lipo will reach 50 mph in a t4, just like your 6s on 2s lipo, but it will spool up much much faster. The only downside is that it's picky with the gearing. Even faster is the lehner 4200, which is just as light as the 380c 9t, but costs twice as much. These motors are good if you are extremely impatient. I highly recommend that you wait for the mamba motors. That's what we've all all been waiting for for the past 2 years. The release date is suposed to be in 2 days.

How does the Lehner 5300 compare to those motors you listed and his 6s as far as speed? Would it be a good upgrade or not? Thats what I've ran before but haven't run any other sensorless motor so I have nothing to compare it too. I do know its quite a bit shorter then a regular 540 so it should be lighter too.

I've heard people say to wait on those 540 Mamba motors for over a year now. I don't think there ever gonna make them.

MetalMan 06.13.2006 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo
I have to assume that that's in comparison to Feigao 540 and 380C motors, correct? If that's the case, will the pricing on these motors indeed be in the $65-70 range?

The CC motors are 540 motors, so compared to motors like the Feigao 540s. I'm not sure on price, but it should be near that range.

sleepy23 06.13.2006 10:44 PM

you know, i am a little unsure how useful the 380 size motor would be. i mean if i have to run a 3s to get the same speed...
the 6s along with my mods will easily push 50mph is less than 200ft. i plan on measuring soon to see exactly how far is needed.

skellyo 06.14.2006 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy23
you know, i am a little unsure how useful the 380 size motor would be. i mean if i have to run a 3s to get the same speed...
the 6s along with my mods will easily push 50mph is less than 200ft. i plan on measuring soon to see exactly how far is needed.

I should be able to give you some more information this weekend. I have a 380C 6L going in my T3, so I'll be able to get some temp and speed data for you.

SpEEdyBL 06.14.2006 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sleepy23
you know, i am a little unsure how useful the 380 size motor would be. i mean if i have to run a 3s to get the same speed...
the 6s along with my mods will easily push 50mph is less than 200ft. i plan on measuring soon to see exactly how far is needed.

There's no doubt that the 3s setup will get there faster than the 2s setup. Even if top speed is the same, there's a world of a difference between 2s and 3s in terms of acceleration and torque. But wait for the mamba max.

sleepy23 06.14.2006 05:43 PM

what 3s lipo are you running that fits into the battery tray of a t4?
i may consider the smaller motor, but would love to get the mamba since it is computer programable and you dont have any of the shitty radio programming like with the mgm

sleepy23 06.14.2006 05:44 PM

one more thing....anybody know a site taking pre orders for the mamba max?
that 7700 sounds just like the powerhouse i want.


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