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Hayden 07.25.2006 09:46 AM

cheap 2000watt motor
 
http://www.wattsuprc.com.au/product_detail.asp?pid=ZP07
I don’t get it, which is the better motor the lmt 1930/8 is a lot more expensive and this 2000watt motor is so cheap I think the 1930/8 is way better am I right?

coolhandcountry 07.25.2006 09:59 AM

That is an out runner for one thing.
It would have gobs of torque.
The motor is open so subject to stuff going in the motor.

Hayden 07.26.2006 09:15 AM

would it have more over all power than my 1930/8?

coolhandcountry 07.26.2006 01:25 PM

I wouldsay yes. I don't think all the escs will be able to run it though. Some of the out runners are like 8 pole motors.

Hayden 07.27.2006 05:02 AM

O...8 pole
Thanks

coolhandcountry 07.27.2006 10:15 AM

I not sure if that one is or not. I have read some of them are multi pole motors though. If the can is like 28 mm across it is like having a 26 mm rotor or so. I wanted to test some on these but never did. If you do get could You let us know how it works out.

BrianG 07.27.2006 10:55 AM

By 8 pole, I assume you mean there are 8 electromagnets (4 pairs) energized at any one time time as opposed to only 2 electromagnets (one pair) on a typical inrunner?

I noticed that on both of my BL motors (8XL and 10XL) that if I turn the shaft by hand, I can feel two distinct magnetic "detents" in one rotation. This feeling is stronger in the 10XL. Does this mean I would feel 8 detents in one rotation for an 8 pole?

SpEEdyBL 07.27.2006 06:04 PM

A two pole motor has 3 electromagnetic poles and a 4 pole has 3 pairs of coils, each opposite from one another, so 6 electromagnetic poles.

seth556 07.28.2006 03:23 PM

The only problem I see is it has a low Kv rating.

BrianG 07.28.2006 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpEEdyBL
A two pole motor has 3 electromagnetic poles and a 4 pole has 3 pairs of coils, each opposite from one another, so 6 electromagnetic poles.

Doh! That makes sense. I sometimes forget these are three phase. :)

So, following that logic; if a typical two pole motor has say 7 turns, does that mean a four pole 7 turn motor has both sets of 3 poles energized at once? This would in effect put each 7 turn pole in parallel with each other, correct? Which would pull as much current as a 3.5T motor, right?

I'm just trying to figure out what makes driving a motor with more than two poles so difficult...

MetalMan 07.28.2006 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seth556
The only problem I see is it has a low Kv rating.

How is that a problem? With lower kv, it's actually less of a problem since you can run higher voltage and gain greater efficiency (that means more power).

coolhandcountry 07.28.2006 06:49 PM

WEll the titans turn about 1200 kv. If you run 6s lipo on it with same gearing it will be faster than the stock setup.

Hayden 07.31.2006 07:57 AM

my 1930 is so free to turn you hardly notice the fields but we have a different motor at work that is near impossible to turn over with you fingers lol “you need a pair of pliers” what’s the difference?

Serum 08.04.2006 10:35 AM

a plettenberg maxximum or a bigmaxximum are very hard to turn with your hand. It pretty much depends on the design of the motor. I don't know what the reason is for choosing a certain 'resistance' i noticed the startup of the plettenbergs are much, much harder than the startup of the motors you can turn easy.


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