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Different tire sizes for which conditions?
I have always been a little confused about selecting the correct tires for the job on a MT or truggy. They make so many different sizes and tread patterns how are you supposed to know what works for your particular application. There needs to be a general tire guide that covers all brands sizes and tread types.
Does anyone know of a database like this. Maybee where it secribes what each size and tread pattern type is designed for? I know the general stuff like the low profile tires give you more stable handleing because of less sidewall flex and smaller pin/tread size for harder surfaces, the lighter the tire the faster you can accelerate, etc... but why are 40 series tires less effective on the track that the more popular (and recent additions to the line ups) the MT size tires? I get it that the MT weigh less but doesnt it have less tread touching the track. Damn it!!! There has to be a guide or somewhere I can read up and educate myself on tire selection. Even the manufactureres dont list what surface the tire was designe to run on. Wouldnt it be nice if you could look at a tire and have it rated for diferent surface types on a 1-10 scale or something? I know this might be easier said than done, but can someone give me a brief rundown of what to look for in a tire for diferent track conditions. I mostly interested in track applications. For bashing anything works. |
I think the 40 series were originally made with the idea that it would be good for the track... less sidewall flex and more tread on the dirt. I've never raced them myself... but I know for a fact if they were the best racing tires then that's what you would see at the track.
IMO, the "tire guide" thing would read like a 100 page spreadsheet... information overload. There are too many variables... tire size, tread type, compound, surface type, condition, appllication, etc, etc... and just too many tires available period. Rough and blown out tracks like a little more flex in the sidewall, and vice versa for a smooth track with good bite... less tire flex. So regular maxx sizes may be better for rough or loamy tracks and the MT for good conditions, in general. The MT's will have quicker response it there is good bite. Tire compound can be tricky... you never know what's best at a particular track without trying them. I would check with the racers and see what they like (where you race most). Sometimes it doesn't matter at all and sometimes it make s big difference. I have only raced (recently) with the MT bowties and I have a set of regular bowties that need remounted, so I haven't run them much. I like the looks of the Crimefighters and Holeshots better though, so I will be getting those if I keep my truck and do some racing next year. For buggy I run Crimefighters also... they work pretty well at any outdoor track I've seen. |
I know what you mean by the 100 page spreadsheet. I think thats why I find it all so confuaing. There are litterally 1000's of possible combinations of size, tread and compound.
At te local track by me almost every buggy is running the Panther Switch 2.0 tires in C compound. But the trucks are all over the place. Even talking to people as to what they run makes it more confusing. I see everything from MTR crimes to 40 series mulchers going around out there. and everyone seems to have a reason to like what they run. I have just been running a set of Maxx Bowties untill I figure out what tire I want. I though for a little while I was going to buy the holeshots, but i dont se anyone running them at all. Its a pretty hard packed surface so I was thinking that the small pin pattern would be good, but Im not sure any more. It just pisses me off cuz its anywhere from $50 - $100 for a set of tires and rims and you dont even know if they are going to be any good. |
I'd just stick with some CrimeFighter MTR's...in my experience my CF MT's at the very least hook up decent on any surface that is semi-packed or harder. The MTR's are just about the same with less sidewall.
Yea...tire's are an annoying business...just learn how to drift your truck and you wont have to worry about traction and tire crap...just worry about how much wheel spin and steering throw and go have fun - its what I do LOL |
If they are running hte clay compound tires.. and you say the track is hard, you probably want the M3 if you do the CF MTs.
A buddy of mine just went to an indoor 1/8 track and said they ran switch 2.0 and the med soft didn't work at all... but the clay were stuck good. Same for some 1/10 tracks.... I know of places where Losi Reds are lose as hell but the pinks are awesome.... and same with Panther comnpounds. It's a weird deal.... |
For started check out the Team Losi site. They have an awesome tire selection and tire reference section. Not EXACTLY what you need but it will be helpful to you.
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