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chiman2 09.03.2007 05:56 PM

hot bodies lsp motor mount
 
im thinking about a nitro to electric covnersion and was looking at the lsp. i see rc monster makes a motor mount for it. i was wondering if it would fit the lightning stadium 10. becuase thats cheaper. i have around a 550 to 600 budget starting from scratch mean no radios or anything. any tips or advice is welcome. first post btw

squeeforever 09.03.2007 06:36 PM

Hey, and welcome to the forum, but I HIGHLY doubt a $550-600 budget will suffice with either the LSP or LS10. Especially if you don't have batteries, charger, etc. And to answer your question, no, the motor mount won't work on the LS10.

chiman2 09.03.2007 07:36 PM

hmmm. ok. what if i can get a new ls 10 for 170 and then sell all the nitro parts i dont need and engine. btw how much do you think all of is that worth?

lincpimp 09.03.2007 07:38 PM

You can do a ls10 for your budget, they are only 189 on ultimate hobbies with free shipping. You can sell the motor for 60 to 80 bucks, keep the radio and servo for steering and have a spare servo. All you will need is a mamba max, a feigao l motor, and battery and a mod 1 pinion gear. I run mine on 4s lipo with a reciever pack and the mamba max bec disabled. You can use the mamba motors, but they are a little small, use the 4600 on 3s lipo would be the best bet, they tend to get hot though. You may also be able to use a traxxas velineon system, it is only $170. If you want pics of my setup, let me know. I do not think the lsp motor mount will fit hte ls10, but it is easy to make a mount. I just used a flat piece of carbon fiber and screwed it to the brake mount on the rear bulkhead.

chiman2 09.03.2007 07:46 PM

thanks for all the information. i would love to see pics. yea i was planning to get the ls 10 from ultimatehobbies i already have a airtronix mx3 fm radio. do you have any suggestions for a specific motor and i plan to run 2s first then bump it up it 4s or 3s probably 4s. the velineon system i think still have some bugs to work out

squeeforever 09.03.2007 08:30 PM

Well the LS10 will be possible on that budget, but it'll be tight most likely. Personally, I go with the MM 4600 on 3S. If you spend your money wisely, you won't have a problem since you would be selling the nitro stuff. I would get a 3S 8000mah pack from TrueRC for it, and a MRC 989 charger and a LBA10 balancer. That should be within your budget. You might not have room for the 8000mah pack though.

So heres what I came up with-

$189 for the LS10

$213 for the MM 4600

$105 for the 3S2P 8000mah LiPo

$145 for the MRC 989

$50 for the LBA10

=$702 minus what you sell the motor, radio, etc. for + 30 or $40 for odds and ends. Not bad considering you will have a really good setup.

lincpimp 09.03.2007 09:33 PM

If you want a better motor than the mm 4600 use a feigao long can, like a 10l or 9l. an 9l will be good on 3s the 10l I have works fine on 4s. I would not suggest 2s as the motor you will use to get the necessay rpm will get hot and draw alot of current. I highly recommend the ls10, it is a great truck. I almost wish that I had not bought and converted a crt.5 as it was much more expensive and not that much better. I am sure that the difference would show on the track, but all i do is bash!!!

chiman2 09.03.2007 09:40 PM

can i have some pics or a thread to your ls 10. i dont understand why i cant run 2s. can you elaborate? and is there any performance difference between the lsp and ls10. also who makes hop ups for them. sorry for the questions. lol

lincpimp 09.03.2007 09:47 PM

Problem with 2s is that the motor has to have a higher kv than a 3 or 4s suitable motor. Kv is the rpm per volt that the motor will rotate. To get best efffecientcy and least heat keep motor rpm to around 35 thousand rpm. A motor that will turn that fast on 2s will draw more current than a motor that spins 35k on 3 or 4s. You will need better batteries for a high powered 2s setup than a 3 or 4s setup because of amp draw. i use a maxamps 4000 4s pack, if you were going 2s, the same runtime may require an 8000 2s pack, and everything (motor,esc and batteries) will run hotter. Lower kv motors and higher voltage just work better than the opposite. The ls10, is 10th scale, the lsp is 1/8th scale. I have both and they are both nice trucks for the price, howver the ls10 will be cheaper to setup as it is smaller and lighter, thus will require less power to run the same as the lsp. I will post some pics in a little while.

lincpimp 09.03.2007 09:59 PM

Heres some pics

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1434.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1435.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1436.jpg
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/b...p/DSCF1440.jpg

chiman2 09.03.2007 10:05 PM

thanks for the explanation and the pics. it looks great. btw do you think you could make a motor mount mount for me?

so wat motor combo do you think i should run with 2s 3800 limn and 3s 3800 limn i have bad luck with rcs so i really want to use limn

BrianG 09.03.2007 10:09 PM

The CF motor mount looks and works nicely, but I would recommend an aluminum one instead as it helps to cool the motor at the same time (and pulls some of the heat into the chassis).

lincpimp 09.03.2007 11:04 PM

Yeah, al would be better, maybe an angle mount to tie the bulhead and the motor to the chassis as well. For the 2s 3800 setup I would stick to a 5700 mamba motor and use a 12 tooth pinion, or smaller. The 2s battery will have to provide a fair amount of amps so I would stick with a smaller motor and lower gearing. With 3s you should be able to move up to a L can feigao, which will be much better and have more power than the mamba motor. A 9l on 3s will be a nice combo, 14-16 tooth pinion should put you near 40mph, which is plenty. I am not sure how well the limn batterys hold up and what the discharge rates are. Assuming they are 20c rated batts the above suggestions should be ok. I would really suggest you go with the 3s setup and the feigao L can motor, you will be much happier with the performance and the temps of the equipment will be alot cooler. For info purposes I had a mamba 6900kv motor on my ls10 and it got over 190f in about 5mins. The esc and battery were also hot. I was using a 5000mah 20c 2s maxamps pack, that little mamba motor was just too loaded with the 4wd setup. I really do not recommend the mamba motors in anything other than a light weight 2wd 10th scale vehicle, or a 10th scale on road car. They just do not have enoght torque and have to have soooo much power to perform.


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