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BLRusty 10.16.2007 01:48 AM

Ideas for mounting A123 packs in Emaxx??
 
Ok, I know a bunch of you guys here run A123 packs in your Emaxx's. I am looking for suggestions and help on how to mount them in my truck.

I have a stock chassis, and plan on running two 5s packs in parallel. My DeWalt pack is still in the mail, so I haven't had a chance to play around with it myself.

For those who run A123 packs, can you please post pics of your setups, or throw some suggestions at me!

Thanks!!

ClodMaxx 10.16.2007 09:38 AM

you won't have enough room. they're just barely wider than a 6 cell pack, and just about as long. i'd look at the FLM extended chassis - you'll have lots of room. they can be held down with velcro, zip ties, duct tape... (you get the idea) :tongue:

Getter Robo 10.16.2007 02:43 PM

BTW: Where can you get those DeWalt packs?

ClodMaxx 10.16.2007 02:49 PM

search ebay for 'dewalt 36v battery'

sikeston34m 10.16.2007 07:35 PM

This is how I run 4S2P.
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...m/DSC06447.jpg
I have ran 6S2P but I think the stock motor plate on your setup might get in the way of that.

BLRusty 10.16.2007 08:26 PM

Thanks sikeston for the pic. I'm guessing you never take your batts out to recharge them? Still that give me a good idea of the size of the cells. I'm really diggin' the motor setup you have!

Yea ClodMaxx, I knew they weren't gonna fit nicely, I just wanted to see the way others have it rigged up in their stock chassis's. I can't afford anymore upgrades at the moment (ie flm chassis). I just bought a second emaxx, and am soon gonna have more R/C's than batteries to run them. I'd like to get a few more of these DeWalt packs if I can get them to fit nicely in my stock chassis.

Clod, do you run a flm chassis?

zeropointbug 10.16.2007 08:35 PM

HERE is my old MAXX truck, it's the first pics of a maxx in the gallery, but it is an FLM chassis, doesn't help you much.

Do you already have two 5s packs made?

BLRusty 10.16.2007 08:45 PM

Yea if I had an flm chassis, I don't think i would have any problems figuring out a way to mount them. I don't think I will have any problems in the stock chassis either, as I'm a pretty resourceful guy, just as most of you guys are here too :) But it doesn't hurt see what other people have done either eh?

No I don't have the packs made up yet, but I plan to run 5s2p in some way, shape or form. Could be one pack, could be two packs, depending on they way they fit best in my Emaxx.

As of right now I have created lots of room on my chassis to work with. I have the stock motor mount still, but have both battery trays free with gmaxx straps, as well as the whole back of the chassis, from the slipper all the way to the rear shock tower is empty space.

Oh yes, and thanks for the pics..... it looks like you've had a nasty experience with an A123 pack!

zeropointbug 10.16.2007 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLRusty (Post 123292)
.... what other people have done either eh?

I suspected you were Canadian... sure enough, I look over and you live in Edmonton, LOL.

zeropointbug 10.16.2007 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLRusty (Post 123292)
Oh yes, and thanks for the pics..... it looks like you've had a nasty experience with an A123 pack!

Yes, my own stupid fault, I charge the 7.2 volt part of the pack at 18v!! yah, I know. Long story short, I made some 'well done' A123 pack for supper, or wait, desert.

NO FIRE THOUGH!!! Pretty impressive if you ask me. :whistle:

BLRusty 10.16.2007 08:57 PM

LOL Well thats always good to know!!

ClodMaxx 10.17.2007 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLRusty (Post 123285)
Clod, do you run a flm chassis?

i did for a short while, but at the time i was planning to make a complete UE SuperMaxx truck, and a UE Lightning chassis kinda fell in my lap... so i sold the FLM chassis. the battery tray part of both chassis are the same dimensions - they are meant to hold 8 sxs ni-mh cells.

zeropointbug 10.17.2007 12:29 PM

sikeston34m

What motor controller are you using with your truck there? How is that outrunner working for you?

tashpop 10.17.2007 01:17 PM

How is that outrunner working for you?

^^^^^please enlighten us?

sikeston34m 10.17.2007 07:51 PM

Hi Guys,

I'm using the Quark 80 amp ESC.

This setup was working really well for me. I had probably a dozen runs on it when I switched it over to 6S2P A123. I found the limits of the motor and the transmission on the first run.

It was VERY powerful. It was throwing rooster tails of gravel farther than I've seen so far, so I took it out to a paved road for some top speed runs. The ballooning stock tires were the limiting factor. I could control it up to around 55mph and I think it would have done more.

I drove it back in front of my house and was driving it pretty hard when it had a "come apart" LOL

The motor stator came loose from the bearing holder, twisting the windings and tearing wires loose. At the same time, I stripped the square center out of the drive dog in the transmission. Bummer.

Since then, I have put a new motor/transmission in it and put it back on 4S2P A123. This is a dependable setup. It will ride wheelies in 1st or 2nd gear and tops out around 40mph. I get about 20 minutes runtime per charge.

I'm in the process of taking all I've learned from my experiments and putting them into an E Revo. This truck will be driven by an Outrunner also.
In this conversion, The motor will replace the transmission. The motor shaft will be a modified transmission output shaft. Custom motor mount for sure. I'm also adding a cooling fan and a lower guard that will protect the motor from impacts and debris.

The motor will be a lower kv for sure. I'm thinking in the 300 to 400kv range. This motor will be alot bigger and capable of carrying higher voltage. I can offset the lower kv by jacking up the voltage until I get the top end I desire.

If cogging is a problem on startup, I have some shorter/lighter Phaltline tires I can try or I will go with RCM's 4.3:1 truggy gears in the diffs.

One goal with this project will be to eliminate these weak parts that just can't take the punishment. I will probably run this on 6 to 8 Series A123. I should have some extra room on the chassis to accomidate this.

The motor I have in mind (2000 watts) won't be available for a few more weeks. But as soon as I acquire one and get started, I will post a thread here and show you guys the progress.


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