Well, I passed on that Hacker. The normal price of over $300 is rediculous, considering what you can get for less. I was just told that he wanted to get rid of it. If he had said $100, I would have taken it. Heck, you can get on Hacker website and they have a C50 9XL on clearance for around $220, I think. For that kind of money, I'd spend a bit more and get a Neu or Lehner.