http://www.rc-monster.com/tempforum/showthread.php?t=227 almost all the way down on the first page is a pic of a complete muggy. The point that i want to make is the motor is no coke can and fairly well balanced. on 5 s the car was fun to run. 6s the truck shredded off tires, destroyed lexan bodies and was way to much to handle unless your making speed passes down a football field. Kiwi listen to these people. i know it may be shocking or hard to believe that a little ole XL motor would be able to outperform a nitro engine but they do. and they do extremely well