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True. I think most of those die-hard noobs (and there is a difference between noobs & newbs) take a look over here when I suggest a useful thread or something like that, then they start reading, get scared of the intellectual nature (I almost include myself in that statement, lol) of the discussions and prices of our rigs, then quickly leave for the safety of the Traxxas forum chesh (sp).....