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03.16.2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k View Post
I see you're back to an IF again... Not sure why a maufacturer would wish to lie...

Personally I've never tried one but Linc seems to have motors, cars, escs and batteries coming out of every orifice so I do listen to what he says...
I do have too much stuff, but I almost prefer to find my own favorites, but always base my choices on others experience.

All I can say is that I tried a brand new vxl rustler, ran it on 3s 4000mah lipo, and a 6000mah 2s lipo. It ran hot on the 2s, like 160f on stock gearing. Nothing was wrong with the truck, no binding or other issues. On 3s it drained the pack in about 20mins. It was fast and powerful, but the motor was hot, and so was the esc. Battery temps did not get out of hand, so I did not think it was poor batteries causing the heat.

Same batteries went into my pede. It had a 12s feigao (3000kv), MM and 15/54 gearing. The 2s pack was slow, but about the same speed as the vxl, maybe a little faster. The overall gearing on the pede is higher than the vxl stock gearing. So the pede should be faster, even with the lower kv motor, and it was. On 3s 4000 lipo I could get 40-45mins runtime, and temps never went over 140 on the motor. I radared the truck at 46 mph. The rustler was not that fast.

Now I did not bother with changing the gearing. The velineon system did not run smoother than my castle/feigao system, so I sold the truck.

Main point for me is that the traxxas setup has no adjustability, 3s max input, and worse temps. The only benifit is that the motor is 3500kv. If castle had a 3500 kv motor I would see no benifit in the traxxas system. The MM is a far superior esc, and the feigao motor performs better than the traxxs did in my testing.

Heres a few shots inside the traxxas motor and a mm motor:





Note the difference in rotor construction and spacer usage. The cc motor is not a feiago, where the traxxas looks just like a feiago, save for the solder plate. Now the recently released sensored feigao motors have a solder plate.

After all of this we are debating a 10th scale 2wd motor. The motor is designed to be used that way. You will not get 40+mph out of this motor in a heavy vehicle, not going to happen. Tons of heat and lots of draw thru the esc.
   
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