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glassdoctor · 11:17 PM

I have talked to Austin many times since he first got into the biz, and he has always come across as a good guy imo. It's no surprise that John has a positive report after a phone call. Jason has been more abrasive it seems and obviously has caused some trouble on the forums with his "style".

I tend to not count that against MA in general... though they do ultimately answer for the conduct of their reps in some way. MA is not the only company with this kind of issue. (SMC comes to mind...)

Here's the deal imo... it appears that TrueRC may rate their packs conservatively and MA may push the ratings more to the edge. The industry has ratings all over the place. It's not like MA is alone in having "optimistic" C ratings. It's the norm really. Not many choose to "de-rate" their product.

I agree there are other brands that perform better, so don't misunderstand. I got better #'s from my Core 5000 than from my MA pack. But on the track they both run great.

In any case... the whole C rating thing is out of control and should be taken "with a grain of salt". I know one company who doesn't put a rating on their packs at all, because they want to stay out of the whole mess.

I'm very confident that Austin is not trying to BS the R/C community and sell crap. He's not their to make a quick buck... he's their to build a good reputable business. I think the lynch mob effect has happened here at RCM. Go to rcgroups.com where MA has had a good presence for a long time and those plane guys are "lipo-nuts"... I don't recall you any of this type of reaction and bad talk.

Also... don't forget that I have posted graphs of MA packs that are pretty good. The ones posted recently where the voltage fell on it's face at like 30-40 amps just isn't right based on what I have seen. My results are completely different.

Oh, and I have killed two MA packs... both my fault. One I shorted out, and one (I forgot about last time this came up) I left plugged in and found it at about 0v (4s pack) a couple weeks later. Both packs ran ok for a while but eventually puffed, as expected.

I'm getting some fresh MA packs soon.

Just a different take.

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glassdoctor TEAM FUSION Offline Posts: 2,041 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Iowa... Hawkeye country	04.29.2008, 11:15 PM I have talked to Austin many times since he first got into the biz, and he has always come across as a good guy imo. It's no surprise that John has a positive report after a phone call. Jason has been more abrasive it seems and obviously has caused some trouble on the forums with his "style". I tend to not count that against MA in general... though they do ultimately answer for the conduct of their reps in some way. MA is not the only company with this kind of issue. (SMC comes to mind...) Here's the deal imo... it appears that TrueRC may rate their packs conservatively and MA may push the ratings more to the edge. The industry has ratings all over the place. It's not like MA is alone in having "optimistic" C ratings. It's the norm really. Not many choose to "de-rate" their product. I agree there are other brands that perform better, so don't misunderstand. I got better #'s from my Core 5000 than from my MA pack. But on the track they both run great. In any case... the whole C rating thing is out of control and should be taken "with a grain of salt". I know one company who doesn't put a rating on their packs at all, because they want to stay out of the whole mess. I'm very confident that Austin is not trying to BS the R/C community and sell crap. He's not their to make a quick buck... he's their to build a good reputable business. I think the lynch mob effect has happened here at RCM. Go to rcgroups.com where MA has had a good presence for a long time and those plane guys are "lipo-nuts"... I don't recall you any of this type of reaction and bad talk. Also... don't forget that I have posted graphs of MA packs that are pretty good. The ones posted recently where the voltage fell on it's face at like 30-40 amps just isn't right based on what I have seen. My results are completely different. Oh, and I have killed two MA packs... both my fault. One I shorted out, and one (I forgot about last time this came up) I left plugged in and found it at about 0v (4s pack) a couple weeks later. Both packs ran ok for a while but eventually puffed, as expected. I'm getting some fresh MA packs soon. Just a different take. Jammin CRT MM/Neu 1515 1700kv Losi 8IGHT MM/Neu 1512 1900kv Kyosho 777 T4 MM 5700 B4 LRP XX4 MM 7700 old losi xxcr, MM4600 4s lipo 70mph+ Last edited by glassdoctor; 04.29.2008 at 11:17 PM.