I've been told that the entire cms36 motor line has the same amount of torque. I do know for a fact my 6900 in the rustler is a pretty nasty combination especially with a 3s (yes I know), although the 2s really seems to flip it backwards even more so at any speed, probably the higher C/mah rating. But I've also read that torque is a function of kv. But so are amps, so perhaps the variance in amp draw between the motors counter act the kv and come out to equal torque numbers. Anyways, when I fry my 6900 after runnin it on 3s lipos, I'll look into that 9L motor everyone keeps talkin about, does it cost about the same as your standard BL motor?