I have no doubt that the little TCs have no issues or shortage of power with the current ROAR approved motors, but thats not the issue so much so far as matters to me- I desire a powerful BL motor and esc system for an MT, not a TC. Im sure the green guys would like to be able to compete with the orange guys at all levels, but thats not the issue that concerns me- its the basher sector that baddly needs more attention. The only 'systems' for MT users at present are the hvmaxx, and the MMM combo, and I know which has the kind of power and performance Im after (flaming deaths not withstanding

). When the Tekin RX8 finally gets here both the green and orange guys will be in for a shock Im sure, but thats a good thing- motivation to compete at the same level for the same potential customers who just want a damned reliable esc and motor that can pull some kind of gearing in an MT with cooking or running out of puff after 30feet. I have the $ to spend if I must, but if a reliable, powerful esc atleast isnt in the offing, I'll end up running a pair of flippin' MMs and building a cursed V-twin type contraption to find the reliabilty and power I want. Gah....