bdebde, can you tell me the total weight of your Mayhem with the 4s in it and the body on.
Because i've a deal on a Turmoil, but i've one on an Hyper 8 too. But the Turmoil is like new, and the Hyper 8 is used, very used.
But i've eared that the Hyper 8 his near a pound lighter than the Turmoil/Mayhem.

Thank you