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Keep in mind that whoever holds that title is "infallible".
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Which, by the way, 99% of people misunderstand. It does not mean the Pope does not sin or make mistakes or even lead others to make mistakes.
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That will not change the fact that the chatolic church under the leadership of a pope has committed crimes against humanity over its 2000+ year reign. Thats history, and it is doctored by those in power to show whatever they want. I have no issues if you ignore it, but it still happened. If you can sleep at night knowing that fine by me.
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It is not doctored - it's out there for anyone who wishes to study it. Again, the Pope is still a man and is not protected from sin. But never did the Catholic Church teach these atrocities. And no Catholic will deny how horrible some of the things were that some leaders committed.
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As for comparing hitler to the pope. Well hitler belived in god too, so maybe he read the wrong part of the bible?
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People often twist the scriptures to their own destruction - that's nothing new and a whole different discussion dealing with authority.
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But what you think is wrong does not matter, what is wrong is wrong.
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Oh, I see - what I think is wrong doesn't matter unless I ask you since you know what is wrong?
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We do have too many people, the planet cannot sustain our lifestyles. Only way I can see to cure that is to reduce the number of people, cause we can't make the earth bigger. We are greedy by nature, and that "want" will be our undoing. I really cannot see another cure for this, "hope and change" just won't do it.
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This theory has been disproven over and over again. What is your solution to reduce the population though?
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No as far as you calling me a laundry list of names... I can only see that you definately have an issue being wrong. We went down this road with the avatar crap quite a while ago. No right or wrong there, but as I remember the majority did not seem to mind it. Had we voted the outcome would have been different. I changed it to cure the problem, plain and simple. Just because you happen to fall in with the majority, does not mean that you are right, just means that alot of people are wrong. History shows that time and time again.
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First - sorry for the names. There wasn't a "laundry list", but I still shouldn't have done it. I was really mad. And it has nothing to do with being wrong. I'm a man who stands on principle - period. I will not give up that principle if I feel it's worth standing up for. That's all. I'm wrong all the time - ask my wife and kids
The avatar thing was something I felt strongly about - that's fine if you don't, but I did. I'm sure there's things you feel stronlgy about that I would think are petty too.
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As far as my comments being out of line, I agree. They are out of line for a forum dedicated to brushless electric. Problem is I still think they are true, and that is what pisses you off deep down inside. You should be more understanding to other peoples ideas. If you are so right you should be happy about being right and look down on people like me for being so obviously wrong. And you ask me for proof... what if I asked for some proof that the pope is infallible... That falls under faith, either you have it or you don't.
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Believe it or not, your belief that your statements are true don't bother me in the way you state. I fully understand that your beliefs are between you and God or whoever you say they're between. I will say that I will stand up for the Papacy though and the institution of the Catholic Church. I was mostly mad that that kind of talk was here on this forum. I use this forum as a place to retreat and enjoy a hobby I love - not to hear my religion bashed. I get that plenty of places. So I was mad about that - I was thinking "why does this have to be here?" I knew I couldn't just sit there - I had to respond out of principle.
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I would never stoop as low as to insult someone via their religios beliefs.
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Sorry, but that's exactly what I feel you did. You may not agree, but I would think it's more important to find out from the insulted if they were insulted than from the insultee. Did that make any sense?
That's all I have time for and I know I missed a bunch of stuff - I gotta go though. Out.