i did something wrong...got out to run and lvc kicked in instantly!
the 4s bat only had 12.4 volts...it must not have charged!
user error i think...got it to charge just now up to 5000mah and 16.8 volts
...also charged up the dual Plett Emaxx!
SHOULD BE A GREAT DAY IN ATLANTA FOR R/C!!!(mid 70'S)