[MetalMan]

Originally Posted by Sammus

I'm not bias, I want to be convinced otherwise.

I guess I don't understand why we need to convince you? Me personally, I have no real data to share. It's likely others here don't either, they just have their experiences. Just keep in mind outrunners in cars are still relatively uncharted which means little quantifiable information.

Originally Posted by Sammus

I understand that, and I'm not trying to start an inrunner vs. outrunner war, I just want to know how theyre better in a car. Can you definitively say that an outrunner vs. an inrunner of similar quality and size, geared to the same output shaft speed will give you more torque at the wheels at the same rpm?

Look after all is said and done, I think outrunners are cool and I want to play with them and experiment, but I just want to know if they actually excel vs. inrunners in any land vehicle applications.

I think the only way that could be true is if the answer to my above question is a definitive "yes".

From my experience, the answer is presently NO. That could change if the Castle outrunners are as good as Patrick seemed to indicate they are.