Indeed, the wording of the advert is very misleading, or confusing at best:
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OK, so you're asking, "What motor do I run it with, where's the Castle motor for this thing?"
They are on the way, honest! They are on the way, honest! The long wait is nearly over. The long wait is nearly over. You don't want to know how many prototype motors we've tortured in the testing of this Monster. You don't want to know how many prototype motors we've tortured in the testing of this Monster. The work has all paid off with these incredible motors. The work has all paid off with these incredible motors. Based on Steve Neu's awesome 15 series motor, the Neu-Castle 2200 and 2650 are works of mechanical art. Based on Steve Neu's awesome 15 series motor, the Neu-Castle 2200 and 2650 are works of mechanical art. They both feature high quality bearings and Neodymium magnets, superior electromagnetic design, and rigorous engineering control in our own factory result in a Monster motor we can put our name on. They both feature high quality bearings and Neodymium magnets, superior electromagnetic design, and rigorous engineering control in our own factory result in a Monster motor we can put our name on.
We're offering two choices: We're offering two choices:
Neu-Castle 2650 KV – Intended for 4S (16.8 Volt) operation. Neu-Castle 2650 KV - Intended for 4S (16.8 Volt) operation. Ideal for 1/8th conversions. Ideal for 1/8th conversions. The 2650 is 67mm long. The 2650 is 67mm long.
Neu-Castle 2200 KV – Intended for 6S (25.2 Volt) operation. Neu-Castle 2200 KV - Intended for 6S (25.2 Volt) operation. Incredible in monster trucks with up to 6S lipo packs. Incredible in monster trucks with up to 6S lipo packs. The 2200 is 75mm long. The 2200 is 75mm long. This is the bad boy! This is the bad boy!
Both motors come with a Neo rotor on a 5mm shaft as standard, not as an optional upgrade. Both motors come with a Neo rotor on a 5mm shaft as standard, not as an optional upgrade. Castle uses high end bearings for trouble free operation, and we've machined integrated cooling fins for that extra bit of power. Castle uses high end bearings for trouble free operation, and we've machined integrated cooling fins for that extra bit of power. These motors are 4 pole, slotted, brushless motors wound with 1 turn in a Y configuration. These motors are 4 pole, slotted, brushless motors wound with 1 turn in a Y configuration.
When? When?
ORDER NOW! Mamba Monster/2200kv combos should be delivered in early December. ORDER NOW! Mamba Monster/2200kv combos should be delivered in early December. Mamba Monster/2650 combos should be delivered in mid December. Mamba Monster/2650 combos should be delivered in mid December.
Hey, a motor is a motor, right? Hey, a motor is a motor, right? What's all the fuss? What's all the fuss? Who cares about a few points of efficiency? Who cares about a few points of efficiency?
Not all motors are created equal, efficiency matters a lot. Not all motors are created equal, efficiency matters a lot. Here's a little math, we promise it won't hurt. Here's a little math, we promise it won't hurt. Say you are laying down 1,000 watts, (about 1 ¼ horsepower), and your motor is 70% efficient. Say you are laying down 1,000 watts, (about 1 ¼ horsepower), and your motor is 70% efficient. That means you are turning 300 watts into heat. That means you are turning 300 watts into heat. Ever grab a 300 watt light bulb? Ever grab a 300 watt light bulb?
Monster's applications typically pull 4,000-5,000 watts (5 to 6 horsepower) under acceleration. Monster's applications typically pull 4,000-5,000 watts (5 to 6 horsepower) under acceleration. The Neu Castle motors are some of the highest efficiency motors that we've ever tested; they are up to 85% efficient on our rig. The Neu Castle motors are some of the highest efficiency motors that we've ever tested; they are up to 85% efficient on our rig. The more common Asian motors tend to show in the mid to high 70's. The more common Asian motors tend to show in the mid to high 70's. At those power levels, one single point equals about 50 watts of heat! At those power levels, one single point equals about 50 watts of heat! You know that soldering iron on your workbench? You know that soldering iron on your workbench? It's maxed out at 50 watts. It's maxed out at 50 watts. That's a lot of heat; now consider wasting several times that much heat inside your truck. That's a lot of heat; now consider wasting several times that much heat inside your truck. Monster motors can therefore put out more power for longer periods than less efficient motors. Monster motors can therefore put out more power for longer periods than less efficient motors. Go ahead, run the motor you have on the shelf, we have a feeling you'll find its limits pretty quickly. Go ahead, run the motor you have on the shelf, we have a feeling you'll find its limits pretty quickly.
It's always better to simply reduce the heat generated in a system by better engineering than to try and cool things with fans and other gimmicks. It's always better to simply reduce the heat generated in a system by better engineering than to try and cool things with fans and other gimmicks. Sure a fan can get you a few degrees, but you had better have a superior design to start with. Sure a fan can get you a few degrees, but you had better have a superior design to start with.
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They say that the castle motors are "on the way", but then dont make it clear that the included ones arent actual castle motors... not cool.
And the price of $398 for a $170-200 esc and $60-80 is insane, thats just obscene.
On a side note- some awesome stuff coming out of korea for r/c lately, especially crawlers
