I think you guys wanting these really low kv motors are not familiar with the way Novak motors like to run. Comparing them to a CC motor, Tekin, or a Neu is kinda irrelevant. Since those are 4 pole motors, and all have much bigger rotors, they require a different setup, and these will never perform similar to them. Since you can figure power as (Torque x rpm's = hp) and we know these are lower torque motors, they need those rpm's to make their power. Also those bigger motors can be very much amp hogs, and require a higher voltage to keep those amps in check, however these motors can hit there max wattage on about 50 amps on 4s. Well within the handling capacity of the motor, and most ESC's.

I take advantage of the small 2 pole rotor, and let them rap out. I've found that Novak motors really like to be up in the higher RPM range, and that they are fine with the 60k rpm range. I know my 4.5 has no problems on 4s, and that's 67,200 rpm's. To get a similar rpm out of a 1800kv you'd have dump 10s into it.

So think of it like this, you would never try to tune a big block, and a tuner motor the same. You use the torque of the big block, and the rpm's on the tuner. Then you wouldn't put the same gearing behind them either. So why try to make a motor something it's not?