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Originally Posted by winkje
Hi,
Must admit being surprised by such a reaction from a President of CC.... Instead of "sorry, seems we overlooked something" you give me the "let's play the ball into the other corner"..... Communication is key and even after sending reminder emails I simply get no reaction from your company. If you simply asked your support guy about our communication you might have understand that I tried multiple different R113IP receivers already; all failing with the MMM and lovely working with alternative brushless setups. What a missed opportunity...
@suicideneil; yes, with the R146iP the issue is solved. The only downside of this is that the R146iP is a low range 6 channel parkflyer receiver where the R113IP the best long range range 3 channel receiver is Futaba created for PCM. Besides that, I have 4 R113IP receivers and just 1 R146iP which is in use for a different model already and all 4 failed the test....
@andywpj; Thanks for your solution. I still haven't tried the previos mentioned solution but you seem to have offered the safetynet. Thanks for that!
@BrianG; thanks for your reply. Yes, it could be that CC is too busy for answering support calls due to the season but I started communication already 5 months ago.... However, your reaction is valid and I honestly hope this is the reason instead of "we don't know how to solve it, so let's not talk about".....
Regards, vincent
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OK, so I guess it's our problem that Futaba decides to ignore the accepted standard and release a receiver that doesn't conform?
There are accepted standards in the RC industry. Manufacturers are expected to conform to the standards. If one manufacturer decides to ignore the standards, why is it the responsibility for other manufacturers to adjust?
The correct course of action is to bug FUTABA, who decided to ignore the accepted standards in RC, TO FIX THEIR incorrectly designed receiver.
The MMM accepts a 2.0 - 5.5V logic level pulse train at 20-100 hz. The valid pulse width range is from .8ms to 2.4ms -- which is WAY more generous than the accepted standard.
The fact that some other manufacturer's devices work with the poorly designed Futaba receiver has more to do with luck than anything else. A large percentage of MMM controllers work fine with the R113P -- but some do not. This is because the R113P is right on the edge -- about a 1.8V output logic level. -- NO OTHER MANUFACTURER has EVER release a receiver that outputs less than 3.3V logic level. Futaba themselves have never released another receiver that outputs less than a 3.3V logic level.
So, my stand is: Futaba decided to ignore the accepted standard on one particular product. The proper course of action is to tell FUTABA that their product is defective, and ask for a fix. NOT to go to EVERY OTHER manufacturer, and ask them to change their design to fit a non-standard RX from Futaba.


Thanx!
Patrick