Originally Posted by Finnster
I'll prolly regret this later but...
The biggest flaw I see in these conspiracy theories is that they assume there is a binary choice in the versions of truth. There is the public "truth" A, and the "real" truth B. That's it. The theorists then attack A as a proxy for proving B, because ultimately B is poorly supported by evidence and logic and cannot stand under its own weight.
-How can you say that B is poorly supported by evidence when there is significantly more evidence and motive for truth B. Also, how can you say I was only attacking truth A... I may mention couple things occasionally, but I mostly stick to what I am observing, observation is science, not speculation, which is what truth A is based on, it is, don't deny it. Everything from what happened inside the towers when the planes hit, to the "terrorists" that they blamed that ended up ALIVE.
This is the same strategy of argument that exists for anti-evolutionists, and even global warming deniers to a degree. Oh look, we think there should be more transitional fossils, ergo creationism/Intelligent Design is true. Usually the weaker the counter argument, the more vicious the attacks.
No no, truth doesn't work that way.
This is another argument altogether, but "Global Warming" is a scam as well, the biggest hoax played on society. Why do you think so many scientists had denied it for so long? Then there was a brief acceptance of it, now again, there is worldwide scientific agreement that is was science fraud.
So, please humor me in explaining exactly how this alter 9/11 scenario occurred?
Please don't do that, I cannot answer every question, and obviously I can't...
How long did it take to plan? How many people were involved? Bush was in office 8mos by 911, did he have enough time to order up and sneak all those explosives in there? Let alone plan out the massive operation, all of which would need to work flawlessly unless the biggest treason and lie in the nation's history be exposed... He was pretty busy passing tax cuts for the wealthy then.
Bush, just like any other president is a puppet.
Was the 1992 WTC bombing by terrorists a clever rouse or only co-incidence? How did they recruit all these thousands of people into mass murder of their fellow countrymen? How did they keep them silent?
1993 bombing... what mass murder? Do you know what you're talking about? Not attacking you.
What was the end goals? War? Really? This was the easiest way of bringing that about? They couldn't figure out some simpler plan?
Lastly, you are staking this on a level of competency of gov't officials, politicians and other middling humans that I'm not sure anyone possesses, let alone George W F'ing Bush, probably the dumbest and most incompetent president we've had in this nations history (including you Millard Fillmore.) A serious weak link in a chain if there ever was one.
Again, Bush is a mere puppet, you really think Government FBI, CIA, etc would allow such a stupid human into office if he actually had any power at all? Just think about that.
These too are gov't officials who have since let two idiot terrorists on planes with explosives, who also only failed due to their shear stupidity and incompetence, not because they were stopped by people who knew them to be coming. I think you are giving people far too much credit.
So please, try to make a sensible argument, esp w/o insulting people. I don't think there is one to be made. Evidence needs to be stronger than "d00d, no way, that $hits crazy." Prove that steel heated to many hundreds of degrees retains a necc strength rating. Prove that a truss structure can withstand the massive weight of a 40 story building falling on it and not fail w/o explosives. Show how such explosives can be rigged throughout a 110 floor building and no one notice all the wires and charges or anything. How much is actually needed btw? Where was the guy w/ the timer watching and setting them off?
Again, I can't answer those questions, but it doesn't matter because there is overwhelming evidence for demolition from the mere FACT that there are clean cut steel center columns at ground zero, all cut at angles. There were large pools of molten steel for weeks after they came down under the core structure would have been, in the basement. AS well as there being not Thermite, but Thermate, a patented NANO-Thermite with a special sauce added to the mix, Sulfur, which lowers the melting point of steel... ground zero was absolutely littered with it.
You need to be able to better explain every shred of "planted" evidence, account for every act of deception, every person in the massive chain of deceit in a way that is at least plausible to a reasonable person.
In your own words please, not some kooky utube vid or some CnP from some nutty website. Of course, I don't mean all in one post, but at least something better than the nothing you've put forth so far.
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